mgoetze Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Does anyone play transfers (Rubensohl or whatnot) after partner doubles a weak two? If so, please describe your method. Does it change for a passed hand or a balancing double? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 I've tried this and didn't think it worked that well. Basically the issue is that over 2M-X-Pass, I want to have two ways to bid clubs at the three-level. One should show values (but not GF) and the other should be weak. These two ways basically have to be 2NT and 3♣ (as they are the only two bids) but this basically forces a natural approach rather than transfers. This is different from over 1NT-(bid) where partner has a much narrower range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 I don't think it's so much the 'narrower range' part of it, but rather that after 1NT - (bid) you can pass on a bad hand as responder; after (2M) - x -(P) you have to bid so you need some way to distinguish strength.We toyed with playing (2S) dbl (P) - 2NT = weak with clubs or constructive with a red suit3C = constructive3red = weak but it didn't seem do gain anything much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statto Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Lebensohl I think is much better after X of a weak 2. Rubinsohl is probably better after our 1NT is overcalled, though it's much closer. This was discussed as a side topic on a thread about Leb v Rub a couple of months ago, probably on this board (from memory). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyB Posted March 26, 2012 Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 Does anyone play transfers (Rubensohl or whatnot) after partner doubles a weak two? If so, please describe your method. Does it change for a passed hand or a balancing double? Lebensohl is used in two main situations - a) Partner has narrowly limited his strength, and we can pass with all weak hands [eg 1N-2S]. We give up on invites and play suits are forcing, lebensohl is competitive. b) Partner is wide-ranging and we cannot pass with a weak hand [eg 2S-X-P]. Suits are invitational, weaker hands go through 2NT. In the former case, transfers are clearly an improvement on lebensohl. In the latter case, transfers do not work, as you cannot distinguish invitational hands from weak ones. There is, however, a case for using 2NT as some form of scramble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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