dwar0123 Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 2/1 imps[hv=pc=n&s=sa8hqj84dat65432c&d=e&v=e&b=6&a=p1dp1h1s]133|200[/hv] What is the correct bid? I bid 4♥, feeling to weak in highcard points to splinter and to distributional to settle for anything less then 4♥. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 I'd bid 4♥ as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 Agree with 4♥ and your reasons to bid it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BunnyGo Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 bid what you have 4♥ ( or 7♦ :)) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 I would have tried 4d, not perfect. 6d4h big hand. I think a 7-1 fit may play better than 44 hagain far from perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 I would have tried 4d, not perfect. 6d4h big hand. I think a 7-1 fit may play better than 44 hagain far from perfect.good answer, for a different reason, IMO. The reason we want to bring in, as best we can, the distribution that we have is so that partner can participate when (if) there is more opposing competition. If 4D is non-serious with 4-6+ in the reds, it might accomplish that goal. If partner is in the dark when we jump to 4H instead as to our strength and shape, neither of us will have a clue what to do next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 I think 4d is pretty serious for me in an old sense of the bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 While I agree that Ds might play better, 4D for me is out of the question. A 4D bid with my partners shows 6-7 solid Ds and 4 card support for partner. You don't have that; funny, I thought that was standard for good pairs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 While I agree that Ds might play better, 4D for me is out of the question. A 4D bid with my partners shows 6-7 solid Ds and 4 card support for partner. You don't have that; funny, I thought that was standard for good pairs.+1 A typical hand for a 4♦ bid would be: AxQJxxAKQJxxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 did I say not perfect?....and I understand if you hate it. If you have a perfect bid posters did not say I note......:) I think we all know what a perfect 4d bid looks like and this aint it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 did I say not perfect?....and I understand if you hate it. If you have a perfect bid posters did not say I note......:) I think we all know what a perfect 4d bid looks like and this aint it.Sorry, Mike. Perfect was not even in the discussion. It does not even resemble what a 4♦ bid should look like. A 4♦ bid is a slam try. This hand is not a slam try. Some wouldn't bid game on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 Deleted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcurt Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 I would drive this hand to game in hearts, but having decided to do so, I would bid 2♠. I might learn more and be able to try for slam (♥AKxxxx and a stiff diamond is plenty for slam). They're at unfavorable so there's no need to make a pressure call now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statto Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 Sorry, Mike. Perfect was not even in the discussion. It does not even resemble what a 4♦ bid should look like. A 4♦ bid is a slam try. This hand is not a slam try. Some wouldn't bid game on it.Doesn't the overcall make some difference? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 Doesn't the overcall make some difference?To some of us, it does. We are preparing partner to make the further decisions for our side if there is more competition. Some of us don't use 4D as a slam-try anyway, and forgo the splinter in clubs to use 4C as a red 4-6 slam try. This (the original treatment of the convention with no name) is useful for us. In competition, we really want to emphasize pattern and will stretch suit quality of 4D to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggwhiz Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 I would drive this hand to game in hearts, but having decided to do so, I would bid 2♠. I might learn more and be able to try for slam (♥AKxxxx and a stiff diamond is plenty for slam). They're at unfavorable so there's no need to make a pressure call now. 100% We are going to game and there is no rush or cost to involving partner. The 1♠ bidder could have such good clubs (and not such good spades) that we might make a grand, not that we can bid it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WellSpyder Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 bid what you have 4♥ ( or 7♦ :))But you have ignored the other "bid what you have" option. I'm glad to see not everyone does.... ... I would bid 2♠... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbenvic Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 Put me down for 4♦, west hasn't bid yet and when it goes 2♠ from me and 4♠from west partner has no way of working out where we should be. If I get 4♦ in then he is better placed to decide the right spot, yes I have 1 more ♦ and no ♣ but hey at least he now knows that at least 10 of my cards are red. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirate22 Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 my considered bid would be 3 hts--- assuming pards 1 ht can be only a 4 card suit, more importantly how many points to respond 1 ht.- 6 Plus.next opp will or will not bid,giving your partner a free nod-assuming 4 hts bid-if the 1sp bidder now bids again--- X or 5hts in order. QED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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