wank Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 [hv=pc=n&s=saq9hk6daq9862cq2&d=s&v=0&b=11&a=1dp1hp2n(17-19)p3cp3dp4cp4hp4sp]133|200[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 4NT...best description I can do. Will accept not opening 1NT and having the 2NT rebid show a floor of 17, only because it is a given condition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poky Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 4NT. If partner has some x-AJxxx-xx-AKxxx we should warn him slam is a bad idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 I'm assuming that 3♣ was natural, 3♦ showed long, strong diamonds, 4♣ was a 5-5 slam try, and 4♥ was a signoff. I have quite a good hand in context. Partner already knows that I have only two hearts and that I'm not interested in slam, but he has still made another move. He's expecting a lot of my strength to be in diamonds, whereas in fact I don't have much diamond wastage. I have the aces of his short suits when I might have had kings. I'm not particularly minimum - when you rebid 2NT with a six-card minor, that often involves an upgrade, but this time I have the high-card values for 2NT. With Poky's example I think partner should pass 4♥, knowing that the hands don't fit well. I think partner should have something like x AQ10xx xx AKJxx. I'd accept the slam try with 5NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel_k Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 My first instinct was similar to gnasher, but I'm not so sure our hand is really that good. The hand is minimum, including 4 HCP that are of highly questionable value. We have doubletons in both of partner's suits and our diamonds are not so good as to be easily usable opposite a shortage. And we would probably bid 4♥ on most 3262 hands because we want to slow partner down if he is hoping for a club fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted March 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 Partner has [hv=pc=n&s=shaj9743djcat8543]133|100[/hv] so you may or may not think he should have applied the brakes over 4♥. Slam is crap but can be made (QTx of hearts and KJx of clubs in slot, but the player who had the hand played 6NT on a spade to the queen by leading a diamond to the jack which was a failure when one hand had KTxx). Lest you criticise my bidding, I was EW btw getting +100 from 4♥ lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Yu Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 5♦, I think my lack of ♣ control is crucial to partner's decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 You posted the hand before I had a chance to comment, but I don't think responder has shown a 5-5 (or 6-6!) slam try. I think he's shown a canape i.e. not strong enough for an initial 2/1. I was expected 1426 or even 1417 in dummy, Why? because he didn't bid 3H over 3D: he has bid hearts once, then clubs twice before bidding hearts again. I thought we were having a great auction to 5C opposite xQxxxxKJ10xxxx and to 6C opposite the same hand with the ace of hearts instead of the queen. so with the actual hand opposite I'd have bid 1D- 1H2NT-3C3D- 3H3NT- 4C4H - P 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dboxley Posted April 7, 2012 Report Share Posted April 7, 2012 4NT...best description I can do. Will accept not opening 1NT and having the 2NT rebid show a floor of 17, only because it is a given condition.Upgrading this hand to at least 18, probably 19, seems automatic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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