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partner jump shifts making our hand a big monster


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First hand, is the jump shift GF for you ? If so, just bid 4 as although 5 is exclusion, it doesn't give you space to untangle the spade holding opposite.

 

Second hand, don't have this problem, can bid 2 first time. Say 1-2(single suited and huge, or GF, 5 good , 4 decent )-3-5(agreeing , exclusion), if partner has x, AKxxx, AKQJx, xx, tough). 5N to find K if all keycards held as partner will bid 5 with 3.

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I'd rebid 3 on the 1st hoping to show the support later.

 

On the follow-ups, 4 cue with both, though on the 2nd I'm concerned about losers so might sign off in 4, and definitely would if playing Italian cues.

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There is a problem with 4 o the first one.

 

You can never find out that partner has x or xx, this has 2 issues, first that you cannot know if 7 can be made, and second is that you cannot play 6 instead of 6 at MPs.

 

I tried 4 and ended up in 6, partner had xx AQxxx A AK10xx, KQ was stiff behind so 6 might or might not make

 

 

 

Second one was just for fun, partner had - AKxxxx AKxxx Jx Opening leader has AQx, and on my local 80% of the 20 table field bid and made 6 on a non club lead, wich is ludicrous not only because nobody found lack of club control nor led a club, but also because 13 tricks are easy if you manage dummy's entries enough.

 

Showing controls etc and getting a club lead due to it for +450 was worth 5% of the MPs.

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