rduran1216 Posted April 1, 2012 Report Share Posted April 1, 2012 I play about 1000 hands against robots per month. I've seen others who take advantage of the robots by psyching or by making calls that are outside of known structure. Is it comparable to live bridge? In some respects yes, but the dbl dummy play of robots on defense combined with their horrendous errors on other hands makes it so that u know how to beat the robots. Check my results against them, I mean you definitely learn how to beat the bots. Its really not the same as live play, but thats neither good nor bad IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpenz Posted April 1, 2012 Report Share Posted April 1, 2012 But the fact that you're only fooling robots is what makes me say "It's close enough". If you did this playing with humans, I'd call foul because you're using an illegal way to get an advantage over those other contestants. But the robots aren't contestants, they don't have the opportunity to win that you're taking away from them. Note also that this strategy has little to do with whether the robot tourneys are "best hand" or not. I suppose there's a bit of safety in bidding light, since you don't have to worry about an opponent having a huge hand that they can punish you with. On the other hand, you also can't preempt them.this may be true, but I have heard of people getting barred for capricious bidding cause they are distorting the results.On the post I had done earlier on a tournament Leo was playing in, 18 board tourney 9 hands he opened 1NT and what was it he only had balanced 15-17 hand once. Thats half of the tournament. I dont know is that fair for the rest of the field? so by the fact your only fooling robots, makes it "close enough". It's an intersting debate I dont know what the answer is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycroft Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 Bridge is a game of full disclosure, and you are expected to try to beat the opponents by playing your system better than the rest, and the opponents are expected to try to beat you with full knowledge of what you are playing. Whether or not "it's just robots", a game where you try to beat the opponents, in any part, by lying about your system better than the other competitors, is Not Bridge. I know it's a challenging game, and I have respect for those who play it well, but it's Not Bridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted April 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 Bridge is a game of full disclosure, and you are expected to try to beat the opponents by playing your system better than the rest, and the opponents are expected to try to beat you with full knowledge of what you are playing. Whether or not "it's just robots", a game where you try to beat the opponents, in any part, by lying about your system better than the other competitors, is Not Bridge. I know it's a challenging game, and I have respect for those who play it well, but it's Not Bridge. Would you argue that a player who makes a psyche is not playing bridge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 If the robots want to know what my bids mean, they should just ask. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted April 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 If the robots want to know what my bids mean, they should just ask. :) I make it a practice to announce, regardless of whether or not they ask...Rude little bastards never reply. Never so much as a thank you or a have a nice day... Oh wow! Jut had a sick thought.Program the robots to bicker with one another... Have both robots run their own sims and have one robot make snarky comments when the other chooses the "wrong" action.That would make it MUCH more like bridge. Better yet! Have the robot's miss-analyze boards and offer bad advice... It will be just like the Newton individual! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 WD Hrothgar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 Maybe we should replace GIB with ELIZA: "Is it because you have a 5-card spade suit that you came to me?""Tell me more about your clubs." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BunnyGo Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 Maybe we should replace GIB with ELIZA: "Is it because you have a 5-card spade suit that you came to me?""Tell me more about your clubs." "Psychoanalyze GIB" New e-macs command? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted April 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 "Psychoanalyze GIB" New e-macs command? GIB analyzes us all the time.Only seems fair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyse Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 How are the points submitted? I have earned some but they have not appeared in my count. How can I get that corrected? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 How are the points submitted? I have earned some but they have not appeared in my count. How can I get that corrected?This will be answered in the separate thread you started about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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