the_dude Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 How in the heck does something like this happen??? Link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpenz Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 I am sure someone will say it depends on the bots being used, if old style bots what their settings are etc.GIB IS GIB.....I tend to play against GIBs on a monthly basis and there is a difference on wether I use GIBs by flash page vs old style GIB install program......if you look at all results especially on results from the main room where GIB is being played the results are pretty amazing at times. But if you play in a GIB robot game like ACBL the results are more reliable, though I dont like the idea of always having the best hand at the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 I was able to reproduce this with the advanced robots. The bidding database has the following comment: ; don't run back to a suit in which they have already doubled you unless the; combined minimum length you know of is greater in the old suit (and at least; 7) and you have at least one more card in it than already known GIB interpreted South's double as penalty (I suspect he meant it as support, although most don't play support doubles over 2♠, and GIB has no way of knowing what he meant). Since West didn't meet the criteria to go back to ♠, and it didn't have anywhere else to run, it defaulted to passing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BunnyGo Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 So to mess with the bots I just need to stick in a penalty double of their suit at a low level, and then they'll never "run" back there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloa513 Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 I was able to reproduce this with the advanced robots. The bidding database has the following comment: ; don't run back to a suit in which they have already doubled you unless the; combined minimum length you know of is greater in the old suit (and at least; 7) and you have at least one more card in it than already known GIB interpreted South's double as penalty (I suspect he meant it as support, although most don't play support doubles over 2♠, and GIB has no way of knowing what he meant). Since West didn't meet the criteria to go back to ♠, and it didn't have anywhere else to run, it defaulted to passing.So why have that cue bid- remove it for those circumstances to reduce GIB confustion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 So why have that cue bid- remove it for those circumstances to reduce GIB confustion.Good point. If South makes a penalty double, it should redouble if it has a good raise -- why make a bid that forces the next level? We don't currently have a meaning for this redouble, so it should be possible to add this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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