Quartic Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 Vulnerable against not, you pick up in 3rd 1st seat a nice 17 count. You open 1♦ and partner responds 1♠, what's your rebid? [hv=pc=n&e=s7ha5daqj82caq742&d=e&v=e&b=6&a=1dp1sp]133|200[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 This is not a game force, therefore I bid 2♣ which if partner passes, is unlikely to be better than a finesse for game unless partner has something like xxxxx, xxxx, K, Kxx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 2♣. partner should make a false preference to 2♦ with a non-minimum and 1 less diamond than club (assuming its right to give preference instead of rebidding spades). I can then bid 3♣, which should be a 5-5 hand in the minors which would have jump shifted with (up to) another king in playing strength. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broze Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 Interesting. One of those hands that I would auto-jump shift after 1♦-1♥ but after 1♠ perhaps 2♣ is enough (though I would still jump at teams since my partnership is not forced to game and has a good system over jump-shifts). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32519 Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 Vulnerable against not, you pick up in 3rd seat a nice 17 count. You open 1♦ and partner responds 1♠, what's your rebid? [hv=pc=n&e=s7ha5daqj82caq742&d=e&v=e&b=6&a=1dp1sp]133|200[/hv] Your bidding sequence is wrong. It says in 3rd seat you pick up a nice 17 count. By inference you state that partner is already a passed hand. For that reason alone, my next bid is 2♣. If partner was an unpassed hand, I would venture 3♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32519 Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 I voted “something else” here. With 5-5 in the minors and 14-18 HCP, I open 2NT telling partner that I have no real interest in playing anywhere else except in a minor. This is what my continuation bidding structure looks like with these sorts of hands:a) Pass = both majors and no fit in the minors. If 2NT makes, you score 120 where the rest of the field scores 110 or minus 50.b) 3m = suit preference, signoffc) 3M = 6-card suit, inviting 4M if opener has 2-card supportd) 3NT = to play, both majors plus valuese) 4m = Minorwood for the suit bid, slam interestf) 4M = to play, 7-card suit plus some valuesg) 5m = to play, distributional fit, cross-ruff potential Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 Delightful, but he asked about the rebid after opening 1D. 1D-1S?you rebid something other than the choices in the poll? It is slightly better to offer your answer under the conditions, and then go off on your gadget. I choose the 2C rebid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quartic Posted March 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 Your bidding sequence is wrong. It says in 3rd seat you pick up a nice 17 count. By inference you state that partner is already a passed hand. For that reason alone, my next bid is 2♣. If partner was an unpassed hand, I would venture 3♣. Sorry, the diagram was right (1st seat opener). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahydra Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 Too light for 3C for me. I'll go with 2C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quartic Posted March 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 At the table I chose 2♣. What should partner bid now if he has: [hv=pc=n&w=sak983hjt98d7ck96&d=e&v=e&b=6&a=1dp1sp2cp]133|200[/hv] What if he has: [hv=pc=n&w=sak983hj432d7ck96&d=e&v=e&b=6&a=1dp1sp2cp]133|200[/hv] Our agreement is that 4th suit is game forcing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 On the follow-up with that one, IMO 2NT under the conditions (we have same conditions). If partner is accepting the invite with 3S, she will bid them enroute. If not, oh well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 I would understand the overbid of 2 ♥ but I would rate 2 NT as obvious. With both hands visible, I would be able to reach 6 ♣. :) But at the table, I guess I had played 3 Nt like most others with these hands... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 At the table I chose 2♣. What should partner bid now if he has: [hv=pc=n&w=sak983hjt98d7ck96&d=e&v=e&b=6&a=1dp1sp2cp]133|200[/hv] What if he has: [hv=pc=n&w=sak983hj432d7ck96&d=e&v=e&b=6&a=1dp1sp2cp]133|200[/hv] Our agreement is that 4th suit is game forcing.3N with the first, 2N with the second. Over 3N I would bid 4♣ every day of the week at teams, trickier problem at pairs. If 3♣ is forcing over 2N I would bid it (I play a non GF 2♥ which I would probably bid and not sure what if any difference this makes). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quartic Posted March 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 My partner chose 2♥, then unfortunately passed 3♣ (clearly wrong). I wasn't certain our other bids were optimal though. I made 11 tricks in 3♣, while the field were making 3NT. The full hand: [hv=pc=n&s=sqt65hq43dkt964cj&w=sak983hjt98d7ck96&n=sj42hk762d53ct853&e=s7ha5daqj82caq742&d=e&v=e&b=6&a=1dp1sp2cp2hp3cpp(Oops%21)p]399|300[/hv] 6♣ isn't makeable (double dummy), but I'd have preferred to try than to stop in 3♣. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 My partner chose 2♥, then unfortunately passed 3♣ (clearly wrong). I wasn't certain our other bids were optimal though. I made 11 tricks in 3♣, while the field were making 3NT. The full hand:Your partner doesn't play 2♥ FG, I might pass 3♣ too, where do you want to be opposite x, xx, KQJxx, Axxxx which is what you might have shown if 2♥ wasn't GF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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