patroclo Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 [hv=pc=n&s=sjthkq92daqjt7ct7&n=skq98haj85d9cak65&d=n&v=0&b=1&a=5hppp]266|200[/hv] est start with 8 of D What your card by dummy ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antrax Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Ace. Is this a trick question? I'll draw three rounds of trump ending in dummy and start pitching clubs on diamonds. I'll lose the ♦K and the ♠A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patroclo Posted March 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 The hand.[hv=pc=n&s=sjthkq92daqjt7ct7&w=sa543hdk6542cqj92&n=skq98haj85d9cak65&e=s762ht7643d83c843]399|300[/hv] I should note than playing A we have six. and playing Q we have 4.If one try to finesse he is down.Guess what was my play :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antrax Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Sorry, I thought you posed the question as a riddle, not as a genuine question. I'll try to explain why I think the A is right, and better players will hopefully correct me if I'm wrong.Because dummy has a singleton diamond, and there are seven diamonds out there, even if the K is "onside" (i.e. the Q wins), we won't be able to repeat the winning finesse - we just don't have any more diamonds to lead. So, playing the Q is a losing proposition, pretty much irrespective of where the K is. The fact the 8 was the card that was led is also important: it means my AQJT7 just became solid (i.e. the 7 is a top honor), and it makes it almost impossible for the king to be with the opening leader (assuming they lead high from doubleton, low from honor, etc).So, I give up on the finesse, and switch to a plan called "ruffing finesse", where I lead my sequence of honors and discard losers from dummy. If the K is "wrong" (for a regular finesse) it's now "right" - if W covers, I can ruff and the rest of my diamonds are good. And if the king was with E, it's no biggie, I'll lose a diamond but I already discarded a loser on that trick, so I didn't really lose anything.The only problem with running the sequence is if I can lose two diamonds - one to the K and one to a ruff. That's why I proposed starting with three rounds of trumps, so even if trumps are 4-1, once you lose one diamond trick to the K, you can draw the outstanding trump and run diamonds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Antrax, the hand is played by North, so ♦AQJT7 is in dummy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahydra Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 How does one make 6 if you play the Ace? You have to lose a trump and the SA. ahydra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 How does one make 6 if you play the Ace? You have to lose a trump and the SA. ahydraWin the ♦A.Play a spade, knocking out the ♠A.Win any return, cash two spades and two clubs and try to cross ruff the rest. You have to be careful to play the opening leader for short diamonds. You can only make one low diamond ruff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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