SimonFa Posted March 6, 2012 Report Share Posted March 6, 2012 Slight disagreement with pard when we got a bottom. MPs, W v W I haven't got the hands but 2D bid was something like: JxxxHxAKTxxxK (1H) 2D (p) 4C We playing 2/1. Ops playing Acol so could be 4-card major. What do you expect from pard and what's your bid? As always, thanks in advance, Simon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 A splinter? Our clubs don't seem to match the meaning, but what else? 4♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWO4BRIDGE Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Fit-showing-jump in competition ( Club suit with good Diam support ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 This is a matter of agreements I play it as a fit-showing jump, agreeing diamonds & showing length & strength in clubs. It is also possible to play it as a splinter, though obviously my hand tends to argue against that definition. Whatever it is, it certainly implies a good hand with diamond support, and my hand is not improved by it, so I'm bidding 4♦. This should never be a club preempt without diamond support, or a strong hand with clubs but without diamonds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cthulhu D Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Fit showing jump or splinter yeah. 4+ diamond, and either 5+ or 0-1 clubs respectively. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Regardless of what it shows and especially if unsure, you have a real minumum, IMHO, and should just rebid 4♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Regardless of what it shows and especially if unsure, you have a real minumum, IMHO, and should just rebid 4♦. ditto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 (edited) Luckily, having played this game off and on since the 60's, no partner has ever presented me with this sequence. Here is what I know: --The condition, "2/1" doesn't apply to overcalls of their 1-bids at the 2-level.--Our agreement that a jump-shift response to an overcall is strong doesn't apply to this one.--My hand tells me the opponents do not have 11 or twelve clubs.--So, when the gun is put to my head because I must to something: I guess partner's bid is fit-showing, even though That leaves the opponents with a lot of hearts and points. 4♦ I guess there is one more possibility: pard manufactured a "mixed" raise with 5 diamonds but not entirely broke....nondescript about his club holding. But she wouldn't do that in a B/I forum... Edited March 7, 2012 by aguahombre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Fit showing jump for me. I would bid 4D now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siegmund Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Should be fit. Wouldnt be confident that it WAS fit with an unknown partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonFa Posted March 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Thanks all for the quick responses. Sadly we don't play fit showing jumps so I took CHO for having good Clubs and an opening hand. Unfortunately he has a penchant fetish for weak jumps, yes even on this sequence, and 5C went 2 down. However it didn't really matter as 3D was the best we could do and we were destined for a bottom as all other tables played in 2 or 3 diamonds. I shall keep trying to reign him in and suggest fit showing jumps here. Regards, Simon PS This is the only partner I can get who is willing to play 2/1, the rest around here all want to play natural Acol so I will be persevering 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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