inquiry Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 [hv=lin=pn|jec,inquiry,miamiwiz,barmar|st%7C%7Cmd%7C2S579KH8TDJKC28TJQ%2CS4AH2346JQAD359AC%2CS8QH59KD278TQC346%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%2024%7Csv%7Co%7Cmb%7C1H%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C1S%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3H%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3N%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C4H%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cmc%7C7%7C]400|300|This was another big swing against team forum. I was told after the match, that justin thought 3♥ was a huge underbid. I did consider 3♦, and since I refused to pass 3NT (which I SHOULD have done), 3♦ would have been better. It would have stopped the diamond lead to trick one. For what it is worth, at the other table, the player with my hand rebid only 2♥. On a diamond lead I have not play and I drifted off an extra trick when i prayed jec made a mistake by not returning a trump (or had Kx doubleton heart). Silly me. My 3♥ rebid might have been a bit timid, but at the other table, after south rebid only 2♥ east found a three club bid, which allowed west to bid 3D. They alerted other new minors by responder as nmf, here there was no alert on 3C, but clearly forcing, which allowed west to bid 3D which stopped the deadly diamond lead (1h-1s-2h-3c-3d-3n-4h) and got a club lead, on which 4♥ rolls home. [/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 These are the kinds of hands you get when you run bad. The uppercut was the cherry on the sundae. The 3♦ call at the other table acted as a lead inhibitor. Who knew? I wold have bid 4♥ over 1♠ with yours. Probably get the same -150 LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted March 6, 2012 Report Share Posted March 6, 2012 [hv=lin=pn|jec,inquiry,miamiwiz,barmar|st%7C%7Cmd%7C2S579KH8TDJKC28TJQ%2CS4AH2346JQAD359AC%2CS8QH59KD278TQC346%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%2024%7Csv%7Co%7Cmb%7C1H%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C1S%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3H%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3N%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C4H%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cmc%7C7%7C]400|300|This was another big swing against team forum. I was told after the match, that justin thought 3♥ was a huge underbid. I did consider 3♦, and since I refused to pass 3NT (which I SHOULD have done), 3♦ would have been better. It would have stopped the diamond lead to trick one. For what it is worth, at the other table, the player with my hand rebid only 2♥. On a diamond lead I have not play and I drifted off an extra trick when i prayed jec made a mistake by not returning a trump (or had Kx doubleton heart). Silly me. My 3♥ rebid might have been a bit timid, but at the other table, after south rebid only 2♥ east found a three club bid, which allowed west to bid 3D. They alerted other new minors by responder as nmf, here there was no alert on 3C, but clearly forcing, which allowed west to bid 3D which stopped the deadly diamond lead (1h-1s-2h-3c-3d-3n-4h) and got a club lead, on which 4♥ rolls home. [/hv] you have a very nice heart suit --but bidding 3d (vs 3h or ughh 2h) is better not just becauseit sets up a game force but it may also uncover a huge dia fit. Bidding any number of hearts againwill probably bury any dia fit. The fact that 3d acts as a lead inhibitor in this case is merely a side benefit. Getting to 4h here is a very good idea (prior to seeing the dummy) p hasa completely useless hand for you thats the game:))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 He told me it was an underbid and a huge one. Justin simply mentioned that it would be pitty if pd passes 3♥ with KxxxxKxxxxxxx Which is very true imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 I definitely think 3H is a huge underbid. I am noticing I am much more optimistic on these hands than most people. That said, I think on hands where partner can never evaluate what the "right" hand is, you should be bidding at least 4H rather than 3H which is true on a hand like this. But on top of that I think our hand is just really good so I would start with 3D. Our void is not in spades even. Passing 3N with your hand would just be absurd, you are resulting yourself. It is debatable whether you should bid 4D or 4H, 6D could easily be cold opposite a 3N bid (like...most hands with 5 diamonds and 1 heart). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 I think 3♥ is a huge underbid too. The 2♥ rebid made by the other West is astonishing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 I think 3♥ is a huge underbid too. The 2♥ rebid made by the other West is astonishing. Tell me about it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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