nigel_k Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Pass. I would redouble if not vul, but vulnerable I expect partner has enough tricks in hearts that we will do better there than elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 I'd pass. As others have said, partner should have a reasonable suit at this vulnerability. It may just be normal to go for 500 in 2♥x. Bidding risks a far greater calamity if we find ourseleves in a 5-2 spade fit or a 4-3 minor-suit fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyunuS Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 I'd pass. Keep in mind, with randoms there's always a chance they won't really have the defense, and if you make the contract at all you usually get close to 10 IMPs, even with no overtricks. If your partner has a very good heart suit you have a good chance to make the contract anyway. You are unlikely to make many more tricks by running, and you might even run to something worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diana_eva Posted March 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Here's the full deal: My link I posted same hand in B/I from North's point of view. Thank you for the answers :) I wouldn't have considered to xx as SOS, to be honest. Not bec i disagree with it, just bec i wasn't aware it's a common enough treatment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 I would redouble. There is a huge upside to finding a better fit, and even if partner sits, the IMP difference between 800 and 1600 is minor compared to finding a better contract, or chasing them off a double. I wonder if this the RHO to Diana's AQx xx Kxx xxxxx? :P Totally agree with Phil. This is an obvious xx. Totally obvious unless playing with a beginner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfi Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 100% agreed against the redouble. Partner is a huge underdog to bid spades and wouldn't know Qx or xxx is good enough. Thus we most likely get to a 4-3 fit at the 3 level and get doubled again. Now what? 2♠ for me, and a hard decision then if it gets doubled and passed back to me. Partner should bid 2S with almost any 3 card spade suit - they're not likely to have four of them when they opened 2H. Qx is a reasonable 2S bid if they do not have a 4 card minor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diana_eva Posted March 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Pass, because the most likely action after XX is pass by your partner, and the most likely action over 2♠ is 3♥ by your partner. Now try introducing 4 of a minor after South whacks 3♥! What fun. What fun for North/South. With an experienced partner, either have the option to make a non-forcing bid of 2♠ here or redouble, asking for him to jump to his longest other suit. Although I was planning to let this thread die in peace, there's an idea here that still bothers me. Tate, i think it's wrong to even consider your partner running from 2!hx to 3!hx as something that will influence your bidding decision. It's assuming your partner has not figured out that 2hx was passed out for penalty. Partner has to be given some trust and respect, even if he is a random player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 2♠ was the winner (or redouble if partner gets it). But I think that's not a first hand Vulnerable pre-empt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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