MinorKid Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 If i were West, I'd like to play ♦ trumps to ask for the ♦Q. :P Since it is not possible, i'd cue-bid 4♠ to let partner decide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 Hand 1 and 2 would had rebid 2NT and 4♥ over 3♦For the majority of players a 2NT rebid denies 4 card heart support. I know some play otherwise, Fluffy does for example, but you should not state your ideas as some kind of standard where they are not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovera Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 Let us see, detailing more, the hands we talk about to explain. I call the hand of W in post #1 "A", the hand of E "0" and the hands of gnasher in post #13 in order to present "1", "2" and "3" so having four cases. After a bidding that has discoverd from every side 14 and more points to think slam after RKCB and relative answer of 5♥(=2k-Q), 5♠ query for Q in all our cases. Than : with A0 hand the answer is 6♦. Now, not indicating Q in club (otherwise 6♣) is likely Q in spade more and, as i have already said, bidding ends in 6♥. In case A1 after 5♠ instead we have the negative case recourring in trump 6♥. And then the two similar cases A2 and A3: the answer to 5♠ query for Q is 6♣(=Q in club is) and 6♦ is for controlling that in diamond suit Q is with 6NT (an eventually 6♠ signal a third Q). West considering doubleton in spade usefull can bid 7♥. Fourthemore we can consider, as undermeaning or support, that when two balanced hands are on the line searching for grand we need: four Aces obviuosly and more (considering also trump agree) other almost six high honors between K and Q i.e. four K and two Q or three K and three Q it being a positif condition to get on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovera Posted July 3, 2015 Report Share Posted July 3, 2015 When i have discovered this topic are, if i just remember, about 2800 views whilest now there is an increment more 10/15 per cent and probably enter in top 30 list round one years ago. Than i am glad of it and suppose meaning is that is interesting (also as a natural and easy methodology to query). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovera Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 What i had said : actually is on 34th position. I want to say that this "mechanism" and what i have explained with a detailed analisys in "RKC question .." in Expert Class Bridge (i suggest to see) became from the same source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmnka447 Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 Certainly, West must take the lion's share of the blame on this auction. The jump to 7 is unwarranted without being able to count to 13 or being sure that the odds of making 13 tricks are at least 2 out of 3 or better. But for me, West also has no business taking the captaincy of this auction with RKCB. I think West's proper call over 4 ♥ is 4 ♠. As others have pointed out, no matter what the answers from East to RKCB, West can't know enough about East's hand to judge whether 13 tricks are there. However, after a 4 ♠ control bid by West, East can assume the captaincy and will be in a position to properly decide where the contract should be placed. I don't think it's too much of a stretch for West to realize that it will be much easier to describe his/her values to East than vice-versa. After 4 ♠ by West, I can see a couple paths to the right contract. RKCB 1 ♦ - 1 ♥4 ♥ - 4 ♠4 NT - 5 ♣5 ♦ - 5 NT Queen ask - Have Q, no outside kings 6 ♥ - P Control bidding (Old fashioned As first) 1 ♦ - 1 ♥4 ♥ - 4 ♠5 ♣ - 5 ♦5 ♥ - 6 ♣ 5 ♥ is a waiting bid, 6 ♣ denies a 2nd round ♠ control and implies good trumps. 6 ♥ - P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovera Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 For instance thanks at rmnka447 for having get to start a dialogue that i am getting on two "tables", as i've said in post 55. To delimitate : i don't consider, on this stage, cue bid but "only" RKCB as point to start. As usually we can consider it when we have two Aces (almost) - you are saying two keys(=A+King of trump) by East. But it is not yet this one the point. I, infact, save bidding starting RKCB by West and, pay attemption, i maneged RKCB in a different and more advanced way. This one is allowed because this convention (RKCB) "is opened" in its structure to this insertness (expecially about this part) and i have demonstred how can be possible and maneged it in post 53. This argoument involves many parts to explain, bye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovera Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 As i think many people should have understood, all answers that i have product every time that i starting to query, were in application of an already predeterminate system for this type of biddings. Infact these ones came from "The New Asking Bid" section third round controll and relative reponses by Ely Culbertson and you can see an example in my post 21 for the case of the topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 As i think many people should have understood, all answers that i have product every time that i starting to query, were in application of an already predeterminate system for this type of biddings. I don't know how to break this to you but I don't think anyone understood anything from your posts. I don't want to sound harsh but there is a certain language barrier at play here and your posts are very hard to understand. Could you use simpler English in the following so we can have a dialogue? (For example I have absolutely no idea what the quoted sentence is supposed to mean.) Otherwise we will just all be wasting our time here (you writing your posts, us trying to understand them). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovera Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 I don't know how to break this to you but I don't think anyone understood anything from your posts. I don't want to sound harsh but there is a certain language barrier at play here and your posts are very hard to understand. Could you use simpler English in the following so we can have a dialogue? (For example I have absolutely no idea what the quoted sentence is supposed to mean.) Otherwise we will just all be wasting our time here (you writing your posts, us trying to understand them).Gwinn, you come from Holland but i am refferring principally to american and english people because they known better (and i think you too) Ely Culbertson author of this system of slam bidding the "New Asking Bid" that licterally stratigraph hand for shape informations and controlls. Because i'm moving on this "theme" from much time and in different posts if you want an explication i am available to clear to you, bye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovera Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 In "Bidding a suit at 6-level after RKC .." in Expert Class Bridge (see too) i have indicate in post 6 the negative case and relative answer and in post 19 the ansewers positives usefull to investigate if are the conditions for a grand slam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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