Poky Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 [hv=pc=n&s=skqha84dkj96cj863&d=n&v=n&b=5&a=1sp2c(GF)3h4hp]133|200[/hv] 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWO4BRIDGE Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 Partner must be announcing a big 2-suiter -- ♠ & ♣ -- because he had other bids available such as a "forcing pass" to find out more info from you at a lower level .Now, however, I'll bid 4S . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 4♠ is forcing here and is the best bid. We may be able to get back to spades when we're higher but not now, methinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 Partner has 4+ clubs and short hearts. As we could be even 3433 4S has to be to play. That does not mean that it is the wrong bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 How often will it be important to get back to spades? If partner is 5134, we can only throw his fourth club on a diamond, and if he's 6124 there's an entry problem after a heart lead. Opposite AJxxxx x AQ AKxx, 7♠ is good but 7♣ isn't, but that's quite specific. Anyway. the right action depends somewhat on the meaning of 4♥. Obviously it shows club support and heart control, but it's a matter of agreement whether it shows extra values, promises heart shortage, or denies a diamond control. I think the best meaning is that it shows shortage, says nothing about diamonds, and can be a suitable minimum. That is, it's a consulatative action, so a cue-bid in reply shows some interest. In that style, I'd bid 4♠. If partner promised extras, I'd bid Keycard. Edit: Han is right, of course: 4♠ has to be natural to cater for 3334. That's a nuisance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 oh yes forgot about 3433. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 I guess it makes no sense to play 4 ♠ as nonforcing to cater for 3433 hands. Partner should usually be able to survive at the fifth level. He already pushed us there anyhow, didn't he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 14 working points?? Our hand is a monster in context. 5H now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 our "speculative" 2c bid has turned on us big time. Whywe didnt start with a forcing 1n with our balanced mingame forcing hand ill never know. There is no way togather any useful information from this point we justhave to bid 5h (showing our ace) and not much extra andhope and pray p didnt start with Axxxxx x AQ Axxx wherespades has a whole ton of extra chance and 6c not somuch. If p bids 5s (extra length) we should just bid6s and hope it works. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 our "speculative" 2c bid has turned on us big time. Whywe didnt start with a forcing 1n with our balanced mingame forcing hand ill never know. There is no way togather any useful information from this point we justhave to bid 5h (showing our ace) and not much extra andhope and pray p didnt start with Axxxxx x AQ Axxx wherespades has a whole ton of extra chance and 6c not somuch. If p bids 5s (extra length) we should just bid6s and hope it works.Maybe it was a semi-forcing 1NT or a non-forcing 1NT. Or, the partnership could have an agreement that 1NT forcing is not bid on game forcing hands. There could be any number of rational explanations for the 2♣ call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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