Quartic Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 [hv=pc=n&w=sakq864h84d5cajt6&d=e&v=n&b=2&a=2h(Weak)d]133|200[/hv] How do you continue? Partner is generally aggressive when pre-empting. Scoring is IMPs. (Teams of 8) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 4h game try. KISS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S2000magic Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 4♥; partner's spade support may be much worse, and in spades you may be cut off from dummy's hearts. (Of course, I'm accustomed to disciplined weak 2s in 1st and 2nd seat: two of the top three or three of the top five honors. YMMV) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quartic Posted February 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 The full hand: [hv=pc=n&s=st2hakjtda983c752&w=sakq864h84d5cajt6&n=sj93h9dqt742ck983&e=s75hq76532dkj6cq4&d=e&v=n&b=2&a=2h(Weak)d4hppdppp]399|300[/hv] 4♥x wasn't a success, going for 500, with an extra trick available in spades (2 extra by East). I did ask after the hand if the opponents had the agreement that double of a weak 2 was for penalties, but they assured me their agreement was takeout. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 The question still applies as your partner did not have a weak 2 in H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 I'd reply 2♠ nat NF but highly encouraging and the auction might go 2♥-2♠-2N-3N, prob -1, but possibly making or - lots of 50s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 If PD can open a weak 2 with Qxxxxx and 6 outside HCP, you certainly can't blast to game with your hand whether or not the opps make a take out double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 What are your agreements for 2N in this auction? Playing with undisciplined preempts, it seems reasonable to play it as Ogust, so if that's an option I'll bid it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 (edited) Surely we should have figured it out on this occasion by the alert of South's double. There was an alert of the Fishbein (non-takeout) double, wasn't there? Edited February 28, 2012 by aguahombre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgoetze Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 If PD can open a weak 2 with Qxxxxx and 6 outside HCP, you certainly can't blast to game with your hand whether or not the opps make a take out double. To be fair it was a bit unlucky that on top of all that the 6 outside HCP were not working very well. Give partner ♦A rather than ♦KJ and put the trumps where they should be given the t/o double, and game looks like a fair prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahydra Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 I'd bid 2S nat F1. Partner bids 3D or 3H, I bid 4S, down one, what is that club king doing in the wrong hand. ahydra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 Obviously, you redouble after a penalty double of 2♥. :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggwhiz Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 I would bid 2♠ over a partner that is capable of 2♥ on that trash. Methinks you are in for a few more of these before (if) your pard reconsiders matters. I once played with a guy famous for his random 2's and got him to promise he would own 6 of them (so I thought), just in 2nd seat only. Two hands in, he opened 2♥ in second and went for a HUGE number. I said "you promised to have a 6 bagger" and with a hurt look he said "I did, clubs". ♠x♥9xxxx♦x♣KQxxxx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel_k Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 If you raise to game on that hand and partner opens 2♥ on the other hand, I don't think anyone needs to change necessarily. Sometimes RHO won't have AKJT of trumps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quartic Posted February 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 I would bid 2♠ over a partner that is capable of 2♥ on that trash. Methinks you are in for a few more of these before (if) your pard reconsiders matters. I was actually East - I posted this hand from my partner's perspective because I was more interested in what his call should be. ;) On reflection, I think I was probably being a bit too aggressive when I chose to open this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 I was actually East - I posted this hand from my partner's perspective because I was more interested in what his call should be. ;) On reflection, I think I was probably being a bit too aggressive when I chose to open this. IMO if opening 2♥ with this is the chosen partnership style, PD should bid 2♠ over their X. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggwhiz Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 On reflection, I think I was probably being a bit too aggressive when I chose to open this. The style is legit and taken to the extreme, served Marty Bergen very well but it drove his partners crazy. Once Larry Cohen couldn't take it anymore Marty was pretty much out of the game. A shame cause he's brilliant. 2♥ on this isn't as bad as I first stated just REALLY not to my personal taste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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