Fluffy Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 if my partner is whereagles or such I would bid 2♦ to be able to redouble SOS next Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FM75 Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 If opponents are playing a 15-17 NT, I would expect opener to have 18-19 HCP, not 16-19.I went down to 16 based on possible non-NT shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 so what happened Jules? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 I'd prefer 2♥ to 2♦, but not by much. As for passing, remember that partner doubled 1♣ for takeout, ostensibly showing shortness in clubs and length in diamonds, hearts, and spades. I would expect that he still has short clubs and length in diamonds, hearts, and spades. Partner almost certainly has a strong balanced hand too good to bid 2NT on the first round (which is usually about 19-21). He doesn't have a 5-card suit or he would have bid it by now. He doesn't have great clubs or he would have bid 2NT over 2C, so I think he has major suit length and is looking for us to bid a suit. I'll go with the 2H bidders, although I sympathise with 3C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mich-b Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 Partner almost certainly has a strong balanced hand too good to bid 2NT on the first round (which is usually about 19-21). He doesn't have great clubs or he would have bid 2NT over 2C. Maybe he does have great clubs , and expects a juicy penalty from 2♣ doubled? Surely he can't get that penalty by bidding 2NT...Isn't it common (at least without specific agreement to the contrary) that all doubles after opps run from a penalty double (of 1NT or otherwise) are for penalties? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules101 Posted February 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 I considered bidding 3♣ to get pard to pick a suit, but wondered if that'd be too high, so decided to bid 2♥ - my best suit - and struggled home (should be one off). Missed a 4-4 ♠ fit. Pard South knew West couldn't have 18-19 given she has a 23 count! She didn't bid on over 2♥ because can envisage West has every missing honour card sitting over hers. Deep finesse says: South can make 3♠, 2♥ and 1N; North can make 2♠, and 1♥; andEast/West can make 1♣ or 1♦. Our west team mate opened 15-17 1N (so west at our table was telling fibs) and got doubled. Minus 3 was -800! Nightmare hand! [hv=pc=n&s=sakq2hkj9dkjcaq83&w=st4haqtdaqtck7652&n=s8753h8765d8642ct&e=sj96h432d9753cj94&d=w&v=b&b=4&a=1cppd1n(18-19%20%5Bfib%5D)ppd2cppdp2hppp]399|300[/hv] I hear some South's doubled 1♣ and rebid 2N over their partner's bid cos West didn't bid again at most tables. This should be one off, but a few made it. Difficult for West to get any useful signals from East! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules101 Posted February 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 If they open 1N then our 1st X is for pens, 2nd X is take out (which pard can convert), 3rd and all subsequent X are penalties. I did wonder whether that meant 3rd X here was penalties here, but we don't have that agreement in this different and rather unusual sequence. I suspect few others would have discussed it either. Given that: pard X for take out of clubs;pard hadn't rebid 2N (difficult over 1N rebid!); and West had rebid their clubs (and I have only one), so could have say AKQxxx♣, so I decided not to chance a pass! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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