jules101 Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 [hv=pc=n&n=s8764h8765d8642ct&d=w&v=b&b=4&a=1c(4+)ppd1n(18-19)ppd2cppXp]133|200[/hv] What now? :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statto Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 2♦. If in doubt bid the cheapest suit. We obviously can't sit the double with this hand, well I don't think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Yu Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 2♥. Partner bid a takeout 3 times, bid the cheapest major. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel_k Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 2♦. Partner likely has a strong balanced hand and need not have takeout shape so I agree with Statto that we just keep the bidding low rather than bid a major. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 2H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmcw Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 2♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbenvic Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 Where's that fence, think i want to sit on it. At pairs the extra for 2♥ is worth bidding however at teams I wouuld bid 2♦ as it just might be your safest spot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FM75 Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 [hv=pc=n&n=s8764h8765d8642ct&d=w&v=b&b=4&a=1c(4+)ppd1n(18-19)ppd2cppXp]133|200[/hv] What now? :(Let's try a little arithmetic. With 1 club opening, op's partner could have responded 1x, or 2 clubs with 6 points. You have zero. So your partner and opener have at least 35. Opener likely has 16-19, leaving your partner with 16-24. But he is under opener, with no suit of his own. If opener had good 4 card major he might have tried it instead of 1NT. Bid 2♦. Partner will bid his best major at that point. He has some clubs. Probably 3, which gives him 2 entries to your hand. Why? Because his partner did not return him to 2 clubs after the 1N rebid. My guess - partner is 4423 with 21-22 points. (If partner is a beginner with long strong clubs, I hope p is not your spouse.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 My guess - partner is 4423 with 21-22 points. The club was specified as 4+ cards, and most people open 2N on that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 Tricky hand, we have decent support for both majors despite the insufficient minerals. I'd start with 2♥ but maybe 2♠ is a possibility intending to show hearts cheaply next?The club was specified as 4+ cards, and most people open 2N on thatRHO is not our partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank0 Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 2♥, it's my best suit. :) 2♦ is likely to cause the least trouble if partner is the player who overbid strong hand. However 2M is more likely to be best contract if playing MP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 Am I the only one who thinks 4M could be a very good contract here if partner has their bids? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 Am I the only one who thinks 4M could be a very good contract here if partner has their bids?No, I was thinking it too. It sounds like partner has a mountain. KQJx AKQ KQJx xx would be enough for game; how much less can partner have? Possibly I should have done something on the previous round, though I'm not sure what. Anyway, I bid 3♣ now. It must be clear to partner that I don't have many high cards, so 3♣ probably shows something like this. I don't think 3♣ is game-forcing, so I suppose I should pass 3M if he bids it. He won't know if we're game-forced either, though, so he'll probably bid 4♣ if he wants to be sure of reaching game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahydra Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 Like others have said, I'd bid 2D at teams and 2H at matchpoints. ahydra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 What about just bidding 2♠ intending to accept an invite, or jumping to 4♥ if partner bids 3♣ or 2NT? But maybe 3♣ is just cleaner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 2♥. I understand 2♠ but I don't understand 2♦. If partner's next bid is 3♣ it would be nice to be able to offer a second suit. Maybe we are strong enough to bid in reverse order but in that case we should plan to show both majors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 What about just bidding 2♠ intending to accept an invite, or jumping to 4♥ if partner bids 3♣ or 2NT? But maybe 3♣ is just cleaner.That's what I'd do if I didn't think I was worth game. But look at what partner has done - he's acted three times, vulnerable and without any encouragement, even though he's probably not that short in clubs. With the example I gave, partner will think he's said everything there is to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 If you think you're worth game, why did you say you'd pass 3M over 3♣? Am I misreading something again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 If you think you're worth game, why did you say you'd pass 3M over 3♣? Am I misreading something again?No, I was being inconsistent, reflecting my uncertainty about whether to drive game or just invite. I think I'm probably worth game, but if partner doesn't bid game after I bid 3♣ maybe I'm not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masse24 Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 2♥ showing clear preference for the superior ♥ suit. (Hey that ♥5 is bigger than the ♠4!) :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S2000magic Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 Let's try a little arithmetic. With 1 club opening, op's partner could have responded 1x, or 2 clubs with 6 points. You have zero. So your partner and opener have at least 35. Opener likely has 16-19, leaving your partner with 16-24.If opponents are playing a 15-17 NT, I would expect opener to have 18-19 HCP, not 16-19. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choccy Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 Anyone favour leaving the double in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 No, 2♦,2♥ seems automatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S2000magic Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 I'd prefer 2♥ to 2♦, but not by much. As for passing, remember that partner doubled 1♣ for takeout, ostensibly showing shortness in clubs and length in diamonds, hearts, and spades. I would expect that he still has short clubs and length in diamonds, hearts, and spades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 I would bid 2♥, but I cannot say that I feel too strongly about it. As for game chances, admittedly I have a very powerful hand. :) However, if partner has a hand that can produce play for game opposite my hand, I suspect he will be able to move over 2♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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