daveharty Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 [hv=pc=n&s=sathqdakt832cqjt4&d=w&v=n&b=12&a=3hp4h]133|200[/hv]Imps. Is your answer different at matchpoints? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbenvic Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 I think my choices are pass, 5♦ and X. X has issues, is it t/o, if so and he bids 4♠ to I bid 4nt, is that blackwood or minors. Do I rip 4♠ to 5♦, is that a cue looking for slam. Too many ways this auction can get confused, without a good solid agreement of methods I'm not doubling this. So pass or 5♦? At Imps I'm whimping out and passing. Too much risk of -500 Vs +50 or +100. Yes I could miss a cold game, that's what pre-empts do. At pairs I reckon I'll bid 5♦ but I still think pass is an ok bid. Sometimes the pre-empters win! - sometimes they go for a big minus too :-) I'm interested in what others do with this hand and others like it. The 6-4 in the minors make it tough, do you bid 4nt and find the 4-3 ♣ fit and miss your 6-2 or 6-3 ♦ fit? Do you find your 6-1 ♦ fit and miss your 5-4 or 4-4 ♣ fit. Maybe pards has a 6313 weak hand and you miss 4♠? If you X for t/0 to you pass 4♠ I couldn't but... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 X at MP pass at Imps. 5D on a 6 card suit at V/nv is a joke imo. I like to play that X and 5C show both m with better clubs and X and 4NT show both m with better D. Getting to best game trumps getting to slam. Here however i think I would X and pass 4S, but ill pull if they double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 I am going to bid 5D. Can this work out badly? Of course! I am not going to double because i do not know what to do over 4S, (yes, 4NT would now be B'wood I assume). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 5D. Most likely our best fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akhare Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 Tough problem...either P or 5♦ could be right. It's tempting to take the +50 or +100 (hopefully) by passing, but it really depends on the state of the match and the likely auction at the other table. What happened at the table? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeegan Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 :P 5♦ looking cheerful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 Hi, 4NT is out, this showes 55, do I really intend to pass 5C? X is out, this showes 4 spades, do I really plan to pass 4S? So either bid 5D or pass. I would go with 5D, but dont mind pass. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahydra Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 pass (can't see 5D making here) MPs is more interesting. Maybe 5D? ahydra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 Pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 obvious 6♣ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 For the serious problem, I'd like to play in clubs if partner had 4 because AKxxxx is very good to be able to ruff third round in dummy, however 6-4 is too much disparity, so I´d bid 5♦ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyman Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 obvious 6♣ lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BunnyGo Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 obvious 6♣ +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 I would much rather double than bid 5D. If partner passes I'm happy and if partner doesn't I can always retreat to diamonds (though not over 5C). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 Pass Maybe they got us....but if they don't, why get ourselves? If I were barred from passing, then 5♦, but not willingly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveharty Posted February 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 I passed. Not a success: [hv=pc=n&s=sathqdakt832cqjt4&w=s842hkj97652d75c6&n=sj953hdq94ca98752&e=skq76hat843dj6ck3&d=w&v=n&b=12&a=3hp4hppp]399|300[/hv] As an aside, if you were North and your partner bid 5D, would you give him a bump? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 Pretty unlucky to find hearts 7-0-5-1 around the table I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 I might bump 5D to 6 yes. Got 2 good cards and a useful void. That's way above average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 I might bump 5D to 6 yes. Got 2 good cards and a useful void. That's way above average.Against your 6♦ they lead a spade. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 about bidding 6♣ with 6-4.... I remember some people said in the past that since hands were suffled and dealt at the table no cheating was possible there. A friend of mine told me this weekend that a player in France was catched cheating doing this: he suffled the pack of cards in front of everyone, then substitued the pack for one of his own prepared. So it is possible to do this even suffling in front of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecalm Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 Yeah 6♣ I remember JL made the whole thread some time ago praising his opponent's courage after bid like that ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 pass (can't see 5D making here) MPs is more interesting. Maybe 5D? ahydra This is a highly amusing comment. The opponents are green and you are red. Why do you think that 5D cannt make. What is your partner supposed to bid over 3H withxxxxxQXXXAKxxor even KxxxxJxxxxAKx Whoops you are correct, 5D does not make on the second hand, but 6 does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 Over 5D north will bid 6D and East will have to X lightner, west can go wrong but i think he should lead a S rather than a club. Really nasty hand to get in a team game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 Against your 6♦ they lead a spade. :) If you give them a call, yes. Ye saboteur! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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