wyman Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 I would have smashed 1H as north. Partner apparently wants to play this hand for penalties, and we have 25+ HCP. I'll start with AKx of hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggwhiz Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 I would have smashed 1H as north. Good point and more in line with my understanding of the modern XX style. Doesn't mean I'm right though. When you have new suits forcing after the double and strong raises ie. 2nt = limit or limit plus and a free 1nt bid to show constructive hands the redouble should be reserved for a hand that wants to punish something and a double of 1♥ would steer you to doing just that or pave the way for 3nt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 AKx doesn't seem like enough to double off anyone at the one level. That is not to say that it wouldn't work sometimes. But partner will expect more than AKx and will not bid on when he should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 Truscott was first published (that I am aware of) in the 1950s. This is hardly cutting edge! Yes I am aware this was originally over a major and I do not know when people started playing something similar over a minor. It seems unlikely noone tried it in the intervening 20+ years though.It may very well be true that the idea of redouble denying a fit has been around a long time. But it was not widely adopted until the 1980s or later, and then, as you state, primarily when our side has opened a major suit. I know that when I started to play, a redouble still promised 10+ any shape and any bid other than redouble denied 10 HCP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyman Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 AKx doesn't seem like enough to double off anyone at the one level. That is not to say that it wouldn't work sometimes. But partner will expect more than AKx and will not bid on when he should. I don't have an 11 count here. They are working off a max of 15 combined points. Partner is suggesting shortness in diamonds (hence tolerance for hearts), RHO didn't jump (which suggests hearts are breaking). I'm on lead and can draw 3 trumps in one go, likely in their 4-3 fit. After that, we'll start on diamonds. I am looking for 800 or more here. edit to note that partner is not forced to defend. If he has a LR in diamonds and wants to bid on, he's still free to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 I would not double 1H on AKx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggwhiz Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 I would not double 1H on AKx. I would but it all comes down to the meaning of redouble which in my partnership is NOT some random 10 count. The double is stopper showing as much as penalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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