the hog Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 To open 1♥ is no crime. But passing 4 ♥ is- or what does this bidding sequence show to you? Passing 4H is a crime? Not for me its not! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 I wonder what all these Las Vegas stars would rebid after 1H - 1S. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabsG Posted February 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 There is a funny discussion (in light of this thread) http://home.comcast.net/~kwbridge/bb/b_2c.htm where opening 2C On: S: Void H: AKQJ98754 D: 6 C: 832 (I've swapped the red suits for this example) was ruled an illegal psyche. Playing Naymats I can see that you'd open this 4C, but without Naymats how can you communicate a hand this amazing? It's got the playing strength of the hand above with 9 quick tricks. Great article! Thanks. Will consider adopting Namyats which seems to solve the problem (not that it crops up that often). <_< For the hog - :D :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cthulhu D Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 Great article! Thanks. Will consider adopting Namyats which seems to solve the problem (not that it crops up that often). <_< For the hog - :D :D I reckon you're better off not doing that, NAMYATS comes up so infrequently that it is a ticket to memory strain and this: http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/brx_brn0.htm happening to you. Just open it 2C and repeatedly bid hearts when it gets back to you, it's not a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbsboy Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 2♣ for me. I cannot show a hand with such playing strength after opening 1♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mich-b Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 Thanks for the input everyone and no apologies needed Justin. :rolleyes: As it turned out my hand: ♠ KQ9743♥ 8♦ AK964♣ 2 1♥-P-1♠-P-4♥-P-P-P I think you should have bid again over 4♥.4♥ rebid should show a very good ♥ suit , and a hand close to opening 2♣.A typical hand might be 7 solid hearts + a black Ace + another nice card OR 8 solid + a black Ace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 One thing is for sure. The debate between the camp which looks for reasons to open 2C and the camp which looks for reasons not to open 2C on wild distributional hands will never be resolved ---no matter what the level of players involved. The best we can do is choose a style, then choose continuations which will compensate for the flaws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighLow21 Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 It is absolutely absurd to not open this hand with 2C. You have 9 and a half tricks, including some honor tricks. One suiters are not hard to bid, what "decision" am I going to be preempted into? Gee, I'll compete to 5H, how is that not a possibility if I open 1H? I play namyats, and I would never open namyats with 9 and a half tricks including a side Ax and Kx. I mean, come on, that's what 2C is for, Namyats shows less than a 2C opener.Absurd but not ludicrous? B-) I can see valid points for either 1♥ or 2♣ but I think it is absurd to say that not opening 2♣ is absurd. Do you really want partner doubling 4♠ for penalty after you opened 2♣? He would be quite unhappy to double 4♠ with a trickless hand and watch as they stroke it home making or with an overtrick. Or maybe even two if luck is really running dry. I open 1♥ because:1. I have no idea what to do over 4♠ by them if I open 2♣ and I do not trust a double of 4♠ by partner.2. My defense is not great at all. All this good stuff might add up to 2 defensive tricks.3. My suit is not the boss suit.4. I do not have enough quick tricks.5. I only have 16 HCP; thus if partner cannot bid over 1♥, their side will have a making game somewhere quite often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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