jillybean Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 [hv=pc=n&s=s9ht84dak75caq632&n=saqt62ha7532d62c8&d=n&v=0&b=1&a=1sp2cp2hp3dp3hp3nppp]266|200[/hv] comments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 South some %age> 50$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 South likes to be declarer? Is he the fodder or the mudder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 I'm not thrilled with 3N - I think 4♥ is clear on S's hand with the quick tricks in the minors and the spade ruffs available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted February 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 South likes to be declarer? Is he the fodder or the mudder? I'm the fodder :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 I'm the fodder :(In any case, I am sure you are not the one who bid 3nt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighLow21 Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 I'm the fodder :( I feel like I had a hand like this recently. ;-) All I can say is, I know South is a very good player and after some more time and experience in the partnership, N/S will do much better next time a hand like this comes up! -Tate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted February 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 In any case, I am sure you are not the one who bid 3ntI wanted to play... bad, bad, bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 I wanted to play... bad, bad, badThat would match the bidding :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 I don't understand 3D. Why not 2NT? I certainly do not understand 3NT. Why not 4H which is soooooooo obvious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cthulhu D Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 I wanted to play... bad, bad, bad I propose you and the hog swap usernames. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 Great biding. It makes you declarer which is a success for any partnership. If a mere mortal had been seated south however, 3 Nt had been very bad. 3 ♦ is just justified if you have no NT bid to show GF values with good stoopers in the minors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahydra Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 3D is good here to check for the 5th heart in North. But once South finds it, he ignores it anyway... ugh. 4H is clear. As for opening that North hand... semi-ugh ahydra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 I'll join the crowd questioning why bid 3nt rather than 4♥ after finding out ♥ and 5-3 when both hands are unbalanced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted February 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 I'll join the crowd questioning why bid 3nt rather than 4♥ after finding out ♥ and 5-3 when both hands are unbalanced.I've aleady it bad,bad,bad :( Thinking I want to play the hand is one thing, not thinkng through that it's an unlikely contract is terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighLow21 Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 3D is good here to check for the 5th heart in North. But once South finds it, he ignores it anyway... ugh. 4H is clear. As for opening that North hand... semi-ugh ahydra You should open the North hand only if you enjoy winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted February 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 Guess who was north? :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jh51 Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 I don't understand those who are critical of North for opening this hand. Does it not meet the rule of 20? Or if you prefer, the rule of 22 (rule of 20 + 2QT)? It figures to be a 6 loser hand. Seems to me that this fits the criteria for an opening bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighLow21 Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 Guess who was north? :blink: Futile Willie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighLow21 Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 I don't understand those who are critical of North for opening this hand. Does it not meet the rule of 20? Or if you prefer, the rule of 22 (rule of 20 + 2QT)? It figures to be a 6 loser hand. Seems to me that this fits the criteria for an opening bid. Actually 2.5 QT's if you consider AQ to be 1.5 quickies, and I always do; particularly if the hand also contains the 10, which it does. In fact there's an argument for calling that 1.75 or even 2 quick tricks. The fact that all 10 HCP and all 2/2.5 QT's are in the 2 five-card suits makes it even better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 I have no problem with this auction until the 3N bid. The only reason to bid 3♦ rather than NT is to find out if partner has a 5th heart so you can bid 4♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 3D is good here to check for the 5th heart in North. But once South finds it, he ignores it anyway... ugh. 4H is clear. As for opening that North hand... semi-ugh ahydra roflSo you think if Jilly bids 2NT, partner is precluded from bidding 3H with a 5th H? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgoetze Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Opening the North hand is pretty obvious IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloa513 Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 I have no problem with this auction until the 3N bid. The only reason to bid 3♦ rather than NT is to find out if partner has a 5th heart so you can bid 4♥.tYes, but you bid 3NT rather than 2NT. Its not unreasonable to play in 3NT rather than 4H just change North's hand from a offence orientated hand with his two aces and other honour to a defensive hand with KQJxx KQJxx and 3NT looks so much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 tYes, but you bid 3NT rather than 2NT. Its not unreasonable to play in 3NT rather than 4H just change North's hand from a offence orientated hand with his two aces and other honour to a defensive hand with KQJxx KQJxx and 3NT looks so much better.Well 2N is NF for me not playing 2/1 and I feel I've got too much for that, if 2N is forcing, clearly it's best. Also opposite KQJxx, KQJxx you play hearts twice, they duck twice and you make about 7 tricks in no trumps with 4♥ requiring a trump lead to have a decent chance of beating it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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