Poky Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 [hv=pc=n&s=sj8642hjt2da2caq2&d=s&v=0&b=11&a=1s2hdp]133|200[/hv] 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Partner has shown both minors, or a hand that can cope with whatever I do when I bid on that assumption, so I bid my better minor. 2N, which so far has garnered the only two other votes, strikes me as very weird. I understand the stopperless 1N we often have to perpetrate for lack of better options, but 2N is not an equivalent call. After a stopperless 1N, the partnership has lots of room to explore the right contract and to find out if a stopper exists. Such room really doesn't exist at the 3 level. And a 1-level overcall can be based on a weak hand, whereas few players overcall at the 2-level without decent values, and, often, a 6 card suit. One of the statements made in an old Bridge World, discussing the stopperless 1N when it was a novel idea, was to the effect that once the opps run their suit, we'll take the rest. Which is fine when all we need is 7 tricks and the opps rate to run only 5 in theirs. The dynamics are far different when there is a good chance that they will run 6 tricks, and that the opps have extra values in addition, and we are one or two tricks higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 [hv=pc=n&s=sj8642hjt2da2caq2&d=s&v=0&b=11&a=1s2hdp]133|200[/hv] we have pretty much a piece of junk minimum and bid 3c P knowswe would prefer to bid 2n if we had a heart stop. If p needsa partial heart stop they can now bid 3h to ask for one andwe will dutifully bid 3n. If p is short in hearts the factthat we lack a heart stopper might allow us to reach a minorsuit game we might otherwise miss. 2n would keep us fromfinding that game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Since mike hates 2NT, that must obviously be my choice :) Now seriously.. I believe in shape/strength before stoppers. 2NT just means a minimum balanced hand and that's what I have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 This hand is really brutal, my standard with this shape is to bid 2S but I don't think I can stomach it on 5 to the jack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 This hand is really brutal, my standard with this shape is to bid 2S but I don't think I can stomach it on 5 to the jack.I almost posted the same: KQxxx would get me bidding 2♠ in a heartbeat (no pun intended)...so....given that we agree that 2♠ is 'out', and given that the rules of bridge do not allow 'abstain' as a sufficient or legal call...what's your poison? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 I would bid 3C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 3C WTP for me, Im not afraid to raise to 2S with Hx and extras values so here im not even tempted to bid 2S/2Nt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 I would bid 2 ♠, I thought it is quite common to rebid his suit with a hand where no bid seems to be right, so partner won't expect more then this in spades. But I guess I should ask him, what 2 NT/3minor/3Heart now shows/aks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S2000magic Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 3♣ - partner's asked me to bid my better minor, not some gosh-awful spade abomination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yu18772 Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Although 2♠ doesnt promise anything more than our opening did, but still like mikeh and Jlogic - cant stand 2♠ with that suit, and AQx in a partners suit, so 3♣ for me.....on KJxxx,JTx,Ax,Axx would bid 2♠. Would never think of bidding 2NT without a stopper.http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gifYu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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