MrAce Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 I appologize if you guys already went over this in past. 2♣--2♦2♥-2♠ 2♣=strong art2♦= waiting (letme know if it makes difference when 2♦ is better than 2nd neg 2♥ if available)2♥=nat 5+ How many ♠ does 2 ♠ show ? I mean i know it is 5+ but is there any situation where you want to bid with 4 or do u prefer it to be 4+ overall ? Also 1x-(1y)-pass/1z-(1♠) How many ♠ do you play this 4+ or 5+ ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 it feels strange, but i think it should be 4+, otherwise responder would need to bid 2NT too often - there's still time to check back for a 53 or 62 fit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 For us, I don't know how many spades 2S would show, but it is not artificial. It won't have 2/3 top honors in a 5+suit, nor a 6+ suit with one top and a side prime. We would raise to 3S with 3 of them and let responder worry about how many she has and the hand strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mich-b Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 For us , 2♣-2♦-2♥-2♠ shows 5+, we bid 2NT with (balanced) hands with 4 ♠s. A 1♠ response to a 1-level overcall implies in our style 5+ cards , though we can occasionally bid it with good 4. (The likelyhood of this is about the same as overcalling on a 4 card suit). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 1. 4+2. 4 +, usually 5+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flameous Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 1. I pretty much always play Kokish so this hasn't come up in ages but I'd assume 5+ 2. I treat it as 5+ but it is often bid with just 4, not with xxxx though. In auction 1C (1D) 1H (1S) I think it always shows 5, you have double for just 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 1. 4+2a. (3rd hand passes): 4+ (but if playing Raptor or non-forcing advances then strictly 5+).2b (3rd hand bids 1♥): 5+ For those promising 5+ in 2a, what would you bid with AKxx/Kx/xxx/AKxx after (1♦) - 1♥ - (P) - ? Or perhaps this means you are not playing UCBs. It seems alot easier to bid 1♠ followed by a diamond ask with this hand and for the immediate cue to show real support than any of the alternatives. In 2b we can double with this hand so promising a 5th spade is not a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 1. If 2♦ is just a relay, 2NT is a negative, so 2♠ shows 4+. What else do you bid on AJxx xx QJx xxxx?If 2♦ promises values, there's no need for 2NT to be artificial. Hence you can play 2♠ as 5+ and 2NT as balanced. It's better to invert these, of course. 2. Four, but you should prefer 1NT if that looks more descriptive. The overcaller should happily raise 1♠ to the two-level with three-card support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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