bd71 Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 [hv=pc=n&n=sa6hak73dakj64c84&d=s&v=n&b=15&a=p3c]133|200[/hv] IMPs Regardless of what your first bid is, what is your plan for most likely responses? EDIT Sorry, this was a poor setup as double is almost obviously the first bid. I really wanted more discussion on follow-ups. In particular, what is your plan if/when partner bids different numbers of spades? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Playing dbl + new suit as "flexible hand", this is an easy double. Else I guess you have to stick to 3D and hope pard can find a bid over it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 I would double and bid 3 NT or 4 ♦ over 3 ♠. Whether I bid 4 Diamonds or 3 NT after this depends on opps and mood. I will choose 4 Diamond most of the time, but I guess that 3 NT will make very often...If partner bids 4 Spade, he has 5 spades and I will pass. Will not be the end of the world to play a 5-2 fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 I would bid 3♦ and don´t find it close. We have no bid over 4♠ from partner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 If partner bids 4 Spade, he has 5 spades and I will pass. Will not be the end of the world to play a 5-2 fit.KQxx Jxx Qxx Axx Partner doubles 3♣ at imps and your call is? Anyone who claims that the jump to 4♠ shows 5 cards in the suit has lived a charmed life. I'm not disagreeing with the notion that partner will often have a 5 card suit. I am a 'strong' overcaller, but there are limits...this hand (just) exceeds them. I double and bid 4♦ over 3♠ or 3♦, and 4♥ over 3♥. I will bid 5♥ over an unlikely 4♣ by partner. I will raise 3N to 4N If he does bid 4♠, well.....what can I do? I have to pass and hope. The idea of bidding 3N over a 3♠ advance makes me ill.....where does one find games in which that makes any sense at all? Won't partner be thrilled to lay down Kx or Qxx in clubs....until trick 2, of course. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 KQxx Jxx Qxx Axx Partner doubles 3♣ at imps and your call is?3NT. Maybe you should have given us KQxx Jxx AQx xxx? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 3NT. Maybe you should have given us KQxx Jxx AQx xxx?Ok....but I don't like 3N with the hand I posited either B-) Anyway, as with an earlier thread, my examples may be too hastily concocted, but it is the point I am making that is the message, not the precise 13 card layout I jot down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Hi Mike, I would bid 3 NT with your hand, yes this is not perfect, but I am balanced and partner "promisses" just 3 spades for his bid... Hi Andy, your construction does not fit to our hand. He may hold 43xy with no stopper and a maximum pass. But if you try to construct a hand, which fits to our hand, it is quite difficult... Maybe KQJxQJx,Qxx,xxx.He may have a little more distribution but he cannot have more values outside clubs- we have them all. And opposite that hand we will quiet often make 4 Spades on a 4-2 Fit. So the worst scenario is, where partner has some club values, lacking values elsewhere. I can live with that risk...So, if our hand had been weaker, a double would more often get a raise to 4 ♠ on 4 Spades. But in that case, I would not double, would you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 I would bid 3♦ and don´t find it close. We have no bid over 4♠ from partner Well, it's not that we have no bid over 4S; we have: 5D. The problem is when pard has 6 spades and pulling back to diamonds is wrong. This is a pure guess, though I believe a simulation would tilt the odds towards a pull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWO4BRIDGE Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 [hv=pc=n&n=sa6hak73dakj64c84&d=s&v=n&b=15&a=p3c]133|200[/hv] IMPs?You decide not to wait for another year and a half for the perfect shape for a Leaping Michaels over a 3-minor preempt.The structure you have in your tool kit is: Over 3-minor preempt:4C = other minor and a major (4D asks major)4D = both majors4M = to play so the auction continues over ( 3C ) :4C! - 4D!4H - pass 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 You decide not to wait for another year and a half for the perfect shape for a Leaping Michaels over a 3-minor preempt.The structure you have in your tool kit is: Over 3-minor preempt:4C = other minor and a major (4D asks major)4D = both majors4M = to play so the auction continues over ( 3C ) :4C! - 4D!4H - pass lovely convention. just a shame it would be so poor to use it on this hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 You decide not to wait for another year and a half for the perfect shape for a Leaping Michaels over a 3-minor preempt.The structure you have in your tool kit is: Over 3-minor preempt:4C = other minor and a major (4D asks major)4D = both majors4M = to play so the auction continues over ( 3C ) :4C! - 4D!4H - pass Interesting idea to make a leaping michaels with a NT shape hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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