manudude03 Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 [hv=pc=e&s=shqj643d9754cqj76&w=sak85h9dkqt82cak2&n=sqj2hak2daj63c954&e=st97643ht875dct83&d=w&v=n&b=12&a=1d(better%20minor)1np2d(%21h)d(real%20diamonds)2hppdp2sp3sppp]399|300[/hv] This caused some discussion today. Who should bid 4S? (noting that even 6 isn't a terrible contract even though it fails on the actual layout) edit: vulnerability wrong, EW were vul, NS were not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petterb Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 As East I would bid 2♠ over 2♥, 3♠ over X, and 4♠ over 3♠. East gets all the blame for missing game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 As East I would bid 2♠ over 2♥ that would be excessive - the double of 2♦ shows diamonds, not spades, but i agree that east deserves most of the blame for his other actions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamford Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 that would be excessive - the double of 2♦ shows diamonds, not spades, but i agree that east deserves most of the blame for his other actions.I agree, but having failed to bid 2S on the previous two rounds, he should bid 3S on the third, having limited his hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 2S is exceedingly feeble lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecalm Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Double should be t/o to hearts not just "diamonds".Then E should bid 2S, probably even opposite dbl = diamonds it's good bid, I mean hiding 6carders is one sure fire way to lose at bridge.Pass after 3S is the worst bid of them all for which E deserves 100% of blame on this hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Double should be t/o to hearts not just "diamonds". no it shouldn't. with take-out of hearts you can double 2♥, once they bid it, as he did subsequently. with diamonds you can only double 2♦ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 I disagree with the double of 2 ♦ to show real diamonds too. But not with the agreement- I play it myself. :)But I had bid 2 ♥ to show my take out of hearts before the bidding gets too high. I think that this is a much better describtion then the double. The obvious downside: If East is a point counter and finds just a 2 ♠ bid, I would pass- he may just hold 3 spades here... So it had to be east to jump to 3 ♠ with his nice shape. Close call... After the given bidding, Easts final pass is silly. West bids as strong as he could and East holds a monster- at least if he looks at his shape... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 To answer the OP's question we need more information as to the methods. Usually when double of a transfer bid shows the suit then the cue is a strong take-out and delayed X a weaker take-out. What would the immediate cue have meant for this pair? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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