Gerben42 Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 And a declarer play problem [hv=pc=n&s=sa93ha863da9ckj76&n=st4hkqj9754dq4c32&d=n&v=n&b=5&a=2d(Multi)p2n(ask)p3s(Maximum%20%21H)p4hppp]266|200[/hv] Opening lead: ♠Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 duck the lead is obvious. Play then 3 rounds of trumps specially if they are 2-1. RHO will make 2 discards not knowing that I have 4, and hopefully will reveal something on the minors. Next eliminate spades and then... if LHO has ♦K any line makes, except playing for diamonds to be ♦J10-K, that would require to play ♦Q from dummy and then diamond to the 9. I don´t think I´d ever trust enough opponent´s discards for playing that line though, so I would just exit ♦A+♦Q. This is better than playing clubs because LHO could have a stiff ♣ honnor (very rare) and then we make even missguessing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Gonzalos line looks fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_20686 Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 duck the lead is obvious. Play then 3 rounds of trumps specially if they are 2-1. RHO will make 2 discards not knowing that I have 4, and hopefully will reveal something on the minors. Next eliminate spades and then... if LHO has ♦K any line makes, except playing for diamonds to be ♦J10-K, that would require to play ♦Q from dummy and then diamond to the 9. I don´t think I´d ever trust enough opponent´s discards for playing that line though, so I would just exit ♦A+♦Q. This is better than playing clubs because LHO could have a stiff ♣ honnor (very rare) and then we make even missguessing. If LHO has the diamond K I can make it by eliminating the spades and playing a club to the J. He cannot switch to diamonds, and rho cannot rise with the ace or I have ten tricks, and if he continues a club I am obviously home too. This line will also win if rho has the diamond K and the club Q, so it seems better, if only because it gives oppo more chances to go wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 So far as I can see, Phil's line gains over Fluffy's when LHO has ♣Q, doesn't have ♦K, and plays back a club when he wins ♣Q. Would he ever do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted January 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 [hv=pc=n&s=sqj65htdkj765cq95&w=st4hkqj9754dq4c32&n=sk872h2dt832cat84&e=sa93ha863da9ckj76]399|300[/hv] This was the full hand. Three tables went down in 4♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_20686 Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 [hv=pc=n&s=sqj65htdkj765cq95&w=st4hkqj9754dq4c32&n=sk872h2dt832cat84&e=sa93ha863da9ckj76]399|300[/hv] This was the full hand. Three tables went down in 4♥. I dont understand how you go down? There are two reasonable lines and both make? Did they embarassingly miss the routine elimination? Decide to try the Chinese finesse before guessing clubs? Try for a bizarro squeeze line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_20686 Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 So far as I can see, Phil's line gains over Fluffy's when LHO has ♣Q, doesn't have ♦K, and plays back a club when he wins ♣Q. Would he ever do that? If you have the J of diamonds alone is it that obvious that declarer doesn't have ATx diamond and a stiff club? Particularly if you have AQ club and the J diamonds without the ten. Surely a low club to the stiff J or JTx is routine extra chance after drawing trumps? I can still cross in trumps to take the diamond finesse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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