Hanoi5 Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Red vs White, butler: ♠Q9♥KJ9xx♦K876♣Q5 (Pass)-??? Do you open? (Pa)-Pa-(1♣)-X(1♦)-1♥-(2♣)-2♥(Pa)-??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Abstain - I'd bid 2♥ the first round. ok if I can't abstain then I bid 3♥ now? who knows. some people play that 2♥ promises significant extras, in that case this is an easy 4♥ bid but most people play that this is just competitive (i.e. all takeout doubles with 4 hearts will bid it), in which case we still don't have a GF hand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 I can agree with a pass in second seat, but in the second round 1 ♥? Is this forcing?Now I am very close to jump to 4 Heart, after all, I did not do my hand any justice with the bidding so far. But I try an invitational bid with a balanced hand- whatever this is in your system, in my it is 2 NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WellSpyder Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Not much to add to previous posters, I'm afraid. I agree with the initial pass - I don't really think this is an opening bid even in my Precision based system, though I could live with 1♥. But the 1♥ bid on the second round was absurd, I'm afraid, and makes it very difficult to give a sensible opinion now. Of course the 1♥ bid showed SOME values after responder bid 1♦, but you will never be able to convince partner you have anything like this hand. 2♥ couldn't possibly give partner the impression that you were stronger than you actually were given that the hand is a maximum for the initial pass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Disagree with 2♥ the round before. The right bid is THREE HEARTS :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 I would open 1♥ (assuming light openers), respond 2♥ to the double, and bid something unambiguously constructive now; probably 3♦ or 3♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 I had a part about 3♥ the round before in my original post but I'm not so happy with it, even if it's a super invitational hand (which it isn't for many people). This hand is not that good, no shape, 2x Qx.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WellSpyder Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Disagree with 2♥ the round before. The right bid is THREE HEARTS :)I also wondered whether 2♥ would have been enough. Without the 1♦ bid it certainly feels like you would want to do more, although perhaps it's not entirely clear what. With the 1♦ bid I'm happier that in raising the lower limit of a 1♥ bid you also implicitly raise the upper limit of a 2♥ bid slightly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 2♥ or 3♥ the 2nd round depending on your hemisphere of origin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Red vs White, butler: ♠Q9♥KJ9xx♦K876♣Q5 (Pass)-??? Do you open? (Pa)-Pa-(1♣)-X(1♦)-1♥-(2♣)-2♥(Pa)-??? easy 1h opener. in any event if you pass as others mention you cannot just bid 1h. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 what is the difference between 2♣->3♥ or 3♥ directly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 Directly shows 5 cards. Via 2C shows 4 and a GF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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