Full Disclosure Using Browser

[FM75]

If you have an FD file, is it possible to activate it somehow using browser version?

 

Some way to upload the file into the CC section?

[broze]

If you have an FD file, is it possible to activate it somehow using browser version?

 

Some way to upload the file into the CC section?

 

Try this forum. The answer may well be in there somewhere.

[pooltuna]

you have to use the old version, i.e. downloadable, and enter the CC and find the file on your computer and then select "USE" you should get a reply to the effect of your new CC was received. In the java version your CC will use the name that is in your CC's file

[FM75]

you have to use the old version, i.e. downloadable, and enter the CC and find the file on your computer and then select "USE" you should get a reply to the effect of your new CC was received. In the java version your CC will use the name that is in your CC's file

Trying to understand...

 

I do have a PC laptop, which I virtually never use. If it did not have the declarer play book/software I would never use it. I could easily move the FD file to that, almost as easily login to bbo on it using BBOWin, which I have only used maybe 3 times. If I went through that exercise AND loaded up the FD file, would that CC then be listed on my convention cards when I log in using the web? And would it automatically alert bids?

 

Thanks.

 

My other question is, is there some way to do this directly using BBO or their web page? The normal way would be to upload a file with a web form.

 

I just saw the instructions near the bottom of the link mentioned above. Will try that. It is a year old, now.

Edited January 24, 2012 by FM75

[FM75]

Instructions for uploading a convention card from PC

These are similar to the instructions posted in another thread.

 

1. Run BBOWin (Bridge Base Online) Application
   
2. Login
   
3. Wait while it loads player list - You might think you could click "Cancel" since you do not care about that - Don't click "Cancel"
   
4. Near lower left corner of window, click the green "CONV." button.
   
5. Work convention card
   
6. Look for Other Convention Cards (this will open a file open dialog box in windows.
   
7. Navigate to the directory where you have the FDCC file stored (has .bss extension)
   
8. If you do not see it, enter "*.*" in the File name: field and click open
   
9. Click on desired file
   
10. Click Open
    
11. Click Use ("Use" here apparently means "send the file to BBO", not actually use the convention card, though maybe it does use it if you stay logged in)
    
12. You should then see "Your convention card has been received" in the chat window
    
13. If you want to load more cards click Open and repeat steps 6 through 12 until you have loaded all of the cards that you want
    
14. Close the "Work Convention Card" dialog box.
    
15. Exit Bridge Base Online
    

 

Your convention card(s) should now be available to use on the browser.

To test them you will actually have to get to a table where you have a partner and opponents - opponents can be robots, but partner can't be.

Once you have a deal you should see the alerts if you are at a Teaching Table. At a regular table, presumably only the opponents see the alerts.

[aa1a1]

I created several cc that are now in "Your Convention Cards" in BBOwin.

Question:

1. how do i delete some of the CCs I created?

2. how can I modify one of the bids (its definition) ? I'd like to change the definition of 2D opening only.

 

The above questions apply only for the Windows version.

(in the web version there is a button "delete")

[barmar]

You can just delete the convention card file. They're in C:\Bridge Base Online\convcards\<username> convcards.

[whereagles]

You can't prepare the full disclosure CC in browser mode, right? It has to be through BBOWin?

[barmar]

That's correct, we've never rewritten the FD editor as a web application.

[whereagles]

Ok. thx.

[whereagles]

I can't find BBO Win anymore. Has it been discontinued?

[barmar]

I can't find BBO Win anymore. Has it been discontinued?

It's still supported, but we stopped maintaining it several years ago, and we don't show the download link on the homepage in most countries. Here it is:

 

http://www.bridgebase.com/intro/installation_guide_for_bbo.php

 

Also, we don't allow logins from accounts created after September, 2012.

[whereagles]

Thanks. I'll pull it just for FD usage :)

 

FD is a great tool. It would definitely be nice to have it for the web client.

[Jurica_]

I just only recently discovered how to upload .bss files and use it as a convention, good explanation as mentioned above. However, my first page and subsequent first lines don't appear correctly, stating E08 error.

 

I'm suspecting it may be due to size of my .bss file because it's 90 MB large. Is there an upper limit on convention system files?

 

Thanks in advance,

Jurica_

[barmar]

The upper limit is 16 MB.

[Phil]

With BBO completed migrated to web platform is there a way to edit FD cards again?

[barmar]

I think the bidedit.exe program can be used by itself, rather than from the BBO application.

 

But we'll need to provide a way for you to upload the updated card.

[Oceanss]

But we'll need to provide a way for you to upload the updated card.

 

Please, pretty please, give to it some thought. Thank you!

[barmar]

Until we do that, just send email to support@bridgebase.com asking to keep the old version enabled for your account. For the near future, anyone with a legitimate need will be accomodated.

[Oceanss]

Until we do that, just send email to support@bridgebase.com asking to keep the old version enabled for your account. For the near future, anyone with a legitimate need will be accomodated.

 

FD use is pretty important in IAC, as we have year long course on OCP - Oliver Clarke's precision, that has (if not wrong) 9 different FD CCs. Our management nickname, bbo_iac is one on the list still able to use window client, so we won't have problem passing updated FD CC to OCP students.

Yet, every pardship is allowed change bits and peaces of the system, and make changes in FD; and they won't be able to update it, as it wouldn't be general system change, but just for them 2.

Same goes for any non-IAC pardship that altered say 2/1 advanced BBO card, and now wants to add Bergen raises, they won't be able to update it.

That's why pretty please to give it a thought, and TY :)

[barmar]

Just so you know, we generally consider Full Disclosure a failed experiment. It was a nice start, but too complicated to handle all the general cases. So we don't expect to take any heroic measures to support it.

 

Adding a file upload button to the web version probably won't be too difficult, but it's not at the top of our priority list.

[Phil]

I dont understand why its a failed experiment. All you need to provide is a widget to create bidding explanations.

 

Hooefully when the dev team is done creating things like Solitaire and Bridge Bingo there will be time for projects relevant to bridge.

[barmar]

I dont understand why its a failed experiment. All you need to provide is a widget to create bidding explanations.

The meaning of bids depends on context. The only context FD knows about is the precise sequence of bids leading up to it. This is a horribly inefficient and complicated way to create a convention card.

[1eyedjack]

When it first came out I spent a bit of time playing with it.

 

Then I couldn't work out how to define a fourth in hand opener differently from a first in hand opener of the same bid. Doubtless there is a way but it beat me at the time. If I can't get past the first round of bidding it felt like a real uphill struggle.

 

Then the odd player cropped up offering to write FD files for a fee. That kind of put me off.

 

Then I realised that I play with too many partners each of whom would need separate FD files if I was going to do it properly.

 

So ultimately, I agree with the concept, but no.

[ldrews]

My partner and I wish to play on BBO using a custom FD CC (Modified Precision Club). I have the bss file, generated using bml2css.py. But since both my partner and I created accounts after September 2012 we are unable to use the old BBO Windows version.

 

We are paying customers (robot rental), and we would be playing tournaments requiring payment.

 

Can you provide us a method of uploading our custom FD CC files? Or enable our accounts to use the old Windows version? Or should we go elsewhere?

 

user name: ldrews

 

Thank you.