skaftij Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 [hv=pc=n&w=st2h962dk732cj962&d=s&v=n&b=15&a=1dp1h3spp4cp4dp5ddppp]133|200[/hv] Expert level, no agreements about such doubles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snorris Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 [hv=pc=n&w=st2h962dk732cj962&d=s&v=n&b=15&a=1dp1h3spp4cp4dp5ddppp]133|200[/hv] Expert level, no agreements about such doubles.The logic says: dont lead spade.Hearts could dissappear on clubs or vice versa. snorris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skaftij Posted January 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 The logic says: dont lead spade.Hearts could dissappear on clubs or vice versa. snorris North is marked with some length in spades. Possibly, he might have made a preference to 4♥ with a doubleton honour. He will have a singleton heart more often than a singleton club, making a lead-directing double of clubs more likely to establish a trick.. On the other hand, South could have proposed 4♥ with a fair six-card suit. His failure to do so is an argument in favour of a ♥ lead.Is this reasoning too speculative, something you invent when you hold East' hand? The full hand [hv=pc=n&s=saq8hq7djt9654cq7&w=st2h962dk732cj962&n=skhkjt84daq8cat43&e=sj976543ha53dck85]399|300[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 I think dbl means "don't lead a spade". I'd try a heart. Maybe pard has AQ over dummy's KJ? Having seen pard's hand, I find dbl as reckless as his overcall LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 It is % 100 ♥ lead for me. Not that i believe pd ruffs it but he might have a hand like QJxxxxxAQxxxx and decided that we dont stand much of a chance on ♠ lead and took a risk. Whether i agree with his decision or not is an other story but i made lightner doubles (asking dummy's first suit) so many times that was not believed by partners and they all were down on the lead i want but pd didnt lead. My last bad experience was when i was playing with Jeff Goldsmith, he didnt lead dummy's suit and they made it. He explained me why he didnt lead and he has all the reasons not to lead it, i would probably not lead too if i were him. In my own experiences over analysing pd's DBL costs more than anything else. I lead it when i am asked to lead a suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rduran1216 Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 i dont understand dbl calling for a heart lead. Where are partner's heart tricks going? To me this is an clear club lead ask, and looking at the 4 hands partner is either an idiot or a genius or both. 100% club lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 i dont understand dbl calling for a heart lead. Where are partner's heart tricks going? To me this is an clear club lead ask, and looking at the 4 hands partner is either an idiot or a genius or both. 100% club lead. [hv=pc=n&s=st2h962dk832cj932&w=skhkjt87dj4cakt54&n=sqj98763haq3dc876&e=sa54h54daqt9765cq]399|300[/hv] Is this reasoning too speculative, something you invent when you hold East' hand? Imho, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rduran1216 Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 the problem with that hand is that partner has no way to know that both hearts are cashing. I think in this auction holding even AQ tight it'd be sketchy because there's nothing stopping dummy from being 0634. I mean its clear the 3S bidder is on some fun narcotics, but it has to be a club in this auction, doubling for a heart when declarer IMO likely has a stiff is not reasonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 the problem with that hand is that partner has no way to know that both hearts are cashing. I think in this auction holding even AQ tight it'd be sketchy because there's nothing stopping dummy from being 0634. I mean its clear the 3S bidder is on some fun narcotics, but it has to be a club in this auction, doubling for a heart when declarer IMO likely has a stiff is not reasonable. Pd doesnt know if he is cashing 2 ♥ tricks or not, he knows leading ♠ will be bad (assume he doesnt have ♠Q either) And if u read my previous post i said "whether we agree with his decision or not is another story..." The hand diagram that i gave, is much more realistic than the original deal and auction to me, at least for my level of bridge, whatever level that might be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeegan Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 :P Partner's double is from hunger given the actual hand. It says I can score an extra defensive trick if you lead the right suit - NOT A SPADE. So, it must be a red suit. A heart doesn't look right to me. I have three small, and the auction gave them every chance to find a 5-3 heart fit, but it wasn't there, or so it seems. By process of elimination it has to be a club looking for the ruff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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