TMorris Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 I am trying to find a source that gives ranges for responding in NT if partner makes a t/o double over an opponents opening bid. I don't seem to have a text book that talks about it so wondered if anyone could point me to something on line? Thanks for any help. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Textbooks (for beginners and/or written a couple of decades ago) will say 6-9. The modern trend is 8-10. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 1NT=8-10, 2NT=11-12, 3NT=13-15 is quite good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 1NT 8-10 with an asterik. For example, what would you bid on: xxKQT9Jxxxxxx if the auction started out (1♥) - x - (P) - ? I can't believe you would bid anything other than 1NT, despite the 6 HCP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycroft Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 And for the reason for the "extras" - your partner asked you to bid a suit, because he has support for the other suits. NT is *not* what he wants to hear - he was counting dummy points for his call. Therefore, it is desirable to be stronger to compensate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 1NT 8-10 with an asterik. For example, what would you bid on: xxKQT9Jxxxxxx if the auction started out (1♥) - x - (P) - ? I can't believe you would bid anything other than 1NT, despite the 6 HCP.2C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 2C.Seriously? When 1NT is likely to be the best final contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricK Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Seriously? When 1NT is likely to be the best final contract?If partner has a perfect 4-1-4-4, your ♥ aren't going to be much use in 1NT, and you will constantly have to lead from dummy. The ♥(and rest of hand) are worth far more in ♣ where you have a possible entry or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1eyedjack Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Seriously? When 1NT is likely to be the best final contract? Not that I feel very strongly about this, but I would observe that bidding the best final contract is only of particular value if partner then goes and passes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Not that I feel very strongly about this, but I would observe that bidding the best final contract is only of particular value if partner then goes and passes.If partner bids again, I think he would be better placed to know that you have stuff in their suit rather than anywhere else. Also, the most likely final contract after your 1NT bid is 1NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 If partner bids again, I think he would be better placed to know that you have stuff in their suit rather than anywhere else. Also, the most likely final contract after your 1NT bid is 1NT. The problem occurs from those who play 1NT is 8-10 as this hand is 2 HCP light. For me, I prefer 7-10 and wouldn't criticize 1NT stretch with your hand but you run the risk that PD expects a bit more and bids again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMorris Posted January 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Thanks for the comments. I'd agree that the hand given is a 2 ♣ bid for me. I think 8-10 is right unless your t/o doubles are very classical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggwhiz Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 I'd agree that the hand given is a 2 ♣ bid for me. I bid 2♣ with that too as the cost of doing business. When I bid 1nt, pard knows I have 8-10 with something useful outside the opps suit and can make a move whether it's towards game or if they take another call. If you bid 1nt on this, it might be the best final contract but pard is whistling in the dark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 I vote 6-10. I'm not really fond of bidding three-card suits in response to partner's takeout double, and 6-10 is basically the range I play for 1♦-1NT (or 1M-1NT NF, for that matter) so I don't see it as particularly unwieldy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S2000magic Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 In his book Doubles for Takeout, Pentalties and Profit, Bob Ewen recommends 7-10 HPC for 1NT and 11-13 HCP for 2NT; by extrapolation, I'd imagine he'd say 14-16 HCP for 3NT. I'd say that anything close to these ranges is probably playable; what's most important is that you and your partner agree on the ranges. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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