gnasher Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 1♦ pass 1♠ 1NT2♦ pass ? The 1NT overcall is natural. Do responder's bids here have the same meaning as without the intervention, or does the overcall change things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mich-b Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 You're basically asking if 2♥ now should be forcing?I would say "yes". If you're weak (and would have passed without the 1NT) same reasons for passing apply , only more so :opener's 2♦ after the 1NT is surely a (good?) 6 card suit.Agreeing that 2♥ is nf , only "correcting" the partscore , seems to imply you think that you should not explore for (and make) a game once they overcalled 1NT.While the 1NT bid shows a good hand , I dont think opening side should be giving up on exploring/inviting/making game just yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Good question. Normally i play that 2H here would be an artificial GF, but here I would assume that's off and 2H is NF. We have not discussed this though, and I wouldn't risk it at the table. Having said that it is a good question, I think that responder will almost always pass or bid 2NT, 3D or 3NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel_k Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 I definitely would expect the meaning to be the same as an in uncontested auction, unless there was a specific agreement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycroft Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 I would avoid saying this in B/I, but I would keep my agreements, because otherwise the people who bid a sandwich NT, "16-18" with 6 clubs and out will eat me alive. Does it happen? Well, it has against me, twice that I can remember (well, once it was a 2434 yarborough, but he was still right, at favourable - he would have taken the same one trick he was getting on defence, for -1400). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 I would avoid saying this in B/I, but I would keep my agreements, because otherwise the people who bid a sandwich NT, "16-18" with 6 clubs and out will eat me alive. Does it happen? Well, it has against me, twice that I can remember (well, once it was a 2434 yarborough, but he was still right, at favourable - he would have taken the same one trick he was getting on defence, for -1400).Interesting. With most partners I play (1♥)-x-(1♠)-x as showing spades, but don't have any other bids to allow for the opponents to have psyched. I wonder what else is out there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Why did partner NOT double, NOT leave bid out/Dbl to you?I'm 70% reliable he fears running clubs with stops in the 1NT. He fears your bid out is trouble.Some thing like 2=3=6=2.Pass unless 1NT was a joke and you have 12+ hcp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jallerton Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 1♦ pass 1♠ 1NT2♦ pass ? The 1NT overcall is natural. Do responder's bids here have the same meaning as without the intervention, or does the overcall change things? Yes, unless there has been a specific partnersip agreement to the contrary, Responder's bids should have the same meaning as in an uncontested auction. It's still possible for the opening side to have game on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 What if you want to force? Should you jump? I think you need a forcing bid here. And what if they're confused, 1NT is sandwich showing a weak hand with the unbid suits and they misalerted? Then we'll be in a pretty bad position without something being forcing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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