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I don't mind which way people do it, but I care if they choose the method based on whether they want the change to appear small or large.

 

Yes, like X increases chance of cancer by 300%, when the risk was originally one in 5 million. Sounds different to "2 more cases of cancer per 5 million people".

 

I also really hate the way statistics are manipulated, especially since most people will believe what the statistics framers intended them to believe.

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Yes, like X increases chance of cancer by 300%, when the risk was originally one in 5 million. Sounds different to "3 more cases of cancer per 5 million people".

 

I also really hate the way statistics are manipulated, especially since most people will believe what the statistics framers intended them to believe.

 

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I don't mind which way people do it, but I care if they choose the method based on whether they want the change to appear small or large.

 

I was amused by an article in the Daily Mail. Tax on second homes was reported to be increasing from 50% to 90% of the standard rate. The headline described this as a 40% increase. I wondered at the time whether the paper had deliberately got it wrong to avoid confusing their readers, at the cost of making their story sound less impressive.

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Dutch people who think that they know how to speak English but use terms like "World convention" when they mean "Leaping Michaels" (or "undertaker" when they mean "entrepreneur", i.e. someone who undertakes some activity) leaving those who actually do speak English completely confused.

 

Rik

 

One of the best known examples of Dunglish took place between the Dutch foreign minister Joseph Luns (a man whose main foreign language was French, the language of diplomacy prior to World War II) and John F. Kennedy. At one point Kennedy inquired what hobby Luns had, to which he replied "I fok horses". The Dutch verb fokken meaning to breed. Kennedy then replied "Pardon?" a word which Luns then mistook as the Dutch word for "horses" ("paarden") and enthusiastically responded "Yes, paarden!"[1]

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunglish

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people who complain about computer dealt hands

 

On the way back from a match in which we had lost to a much weaker team, one of our players blamed the captain for allowing pre-dealt boards to be used, which had led to wilder distributions and thus greater variance. Not only should we have dealt by hand, we should have been careful to avoid shuffling too much.

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people who complain about computer dealt hands

On the way back from a match in which we had lost to a much weaker team, one of our players blamed the captain for allowing pre-dealt boards to be used, which had led to wilder distributions and thus greater variance. Not only should we have dealt by hand, we should have been careful to avoid shuffling too much.

Was he from the West of Scotland? Fear of computer-dealt boards is endemic there.

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Phrases such as "the average businesswoman spends £400 per year on.." or "the average household has 3 televisions" . They mean "the average number of televisions per household is...." but what they say is something completely different, and often meaningless.

 

And I hate pre-things. What does 'pre-reserved' or 'pre-warned' mean that 'reserved' or 'warned' doesn't?

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Phrases such as "the average businesswoman spends £400 per year on.." or "the average household has 3 televisions" . They mean "the average number of televisions per household is...." but what they say is something completely different, and often meaningless.

It's precisely because the literal wording is meaningless that it DOES mean what they intend. It can't mean what was said, so it's easy to interpret it. And after enough uses, the that's what the phrase means.

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And I hate pre-things. What does 'pre-reserved' or 'pre-warned' mean that 'reserved' or 'warned' doesn't?

Well, this thread is all about pre-venting. ;)

 

When I was doing my PhD work, you had to start by coming up with a research proposal that you needed to defend for your exam committee. For some reason that I never understood this was called a "pre-proposal". I still find this one of the ugliest words I know.

 

Rik

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I heard a new annoying phrase recently. When our plane landed we were told that we wouldn't immediately be able to "deplane the aircraft".

 

And I'm irritated by those who "give 110 percent"

 

While in general I agree with both, they've been using the former for years now (gah!) and the latter is technically possible. For example, you can give 110% of what you can do safely. Thus (likely) injuring yourself, but getting the job done. This happens a lot in engineering with safety limits etc.

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