flametree Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 Oops. Can't change topic subtitle? Should be "5-2 or 4-3"...Auction begins 1NT-2C, 2D-2H. You have 3=2=4=4 shape. Assume partner's 2H guarantees 5x hearts and 4x spades and a very weak hand. Do you play in the 5-2 heart fit or the 4-3 spade fit? Do honour placement or spot values affect the decision? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWO4BRIDGE Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 With a WEAK 4s/5h.... transfer to ♥ and forget about ♠. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The form of Trash Stayman I prefer is Responder with 4/4, 5/5 or 5s/4h , WEAK . Therefore, Opener with equal or longer ♠, corrects to 2S,but PASS with longer ♥.So, with longer ♥, you may be playing in the 4-3 fit rather than the possible 5-2 fit in ♠ .But at least you wouldn't be playing in the 4-2 ♠ fit when Responder is 4/4 . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The reason for playing the way I prefer, is that the following auction in considered INVITATIONAL :1NT - 2C2D - 2S = 5s/4h invite. But I realize some play this as a "2nd" trash sequence -- the 1st being your sequence with the 4s/5h holding. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 With no clear strength difference in the two suits I would play in the 4-3 probably, as long as you are comfortable in Moysians (And most intermediate and beginning players I know are not). I would want the lead running into the strong hand. If there is a clear strength difference, I will probably play in the stronger of the suits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 I would almost always choose the 5-2 heart fit in your hypothetical. However, it is purely a hypothetical, as playing garbage stayman and not being able to bid it with 5-5 in the majors seems quite bad. The reason you correct with 3-2 is that partner might have 5-5 or even some 4-4s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 I would almost always choose the 5-2 heart fit in your hypothetical. However, it is purely a hypothetical, as playing garbage stayman and not being able to bid it with 5-5 in the majors seems quite bad. The reason you correct with 3-2 is that partner might have 5-5 or even some 4-4s.Exactly, I play a weak no trump and will sometimes move with a bad 4-4 where it's important to play in the 4-3 rather than the 4-2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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