gwnn Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 QxxATxxxxKxxx again all NV at MP, this time LHO opens 1D. 1D-p-1H-p1N-2C-2D-?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 If someone didnt steal my 3♣ card from bidding box i would not mastermind and bid it and save my energy to another board. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggwhiz Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 3♣, fold my cards and put them in my pocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 Csaba? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 Csaba? LoL, now u know why i asked him on the other thread, this was first and then other one came, and i know Csaba well enough that he wouldnt ask those questions if he wasnt upto something :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted January 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 There were two problems with this hand:-i never know what I'm supposed to do when partner bids like this since I would personally never pass then bid in a no fit auction like this.-i missaw the vulnerability! we were unfavourable:( I told that to my partner but he thought it would have been a bad bid anyway -800 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 If pard is the sort of person who will have a logical reason to bid like this (i.e. might have a 4-2-2-5), then 3C is normal. If pard is a bit of a random guy who likes to be funny, who knows? It's anyone's guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fromageGB Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 I voted "pass" before reading further. Surprised to see so many votes for 3♣.I am very happy partner has managed to push them up a level, so leave it there. This is definitely not our hand, partner failed to bid 2♣ first time round, so he has probably no more than a 10 count, possibly fewer, and only 5 clubs, having failed to WJO. So we have definitely less than half the pack, and only a 9 card fit. The doubleton diamond looks bad, my spade is sat on, and I see no reason to sacrifice. Another factor is the possible damage to partnership morale. When I make a successful push, to have a better chance at defending, and then partner goes and bids further for bad score, it really annoys me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fromageGB Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 The decision on what to bid on this hand depends to a great extent on what you expect from a 2-level overcall initially. I see from the other poll that my 2-level overcalls are lighter than most, who may demand a 13 count if 2335 shape? If that is the case, then maybe a delayed 2♣ is only slightly weaker, or as whereagles says, a high count mild 2-suiter. In this case, a 3♣ bid would be essential, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 I ♥ BBF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 I voted "pass" before reading further. Surprised to see so many votes for 3♣.I am very happy partner has managed to push them up a level, so leave it there. This is definitely not our hand, partner failed to bid 2♣ first time round, so he has probably no more than a 10 count, possibly fewer, and only 5 clubs, having failed to WJO. So we have definitely less than half the pack, and only a 9 card fit. The doubleton diamond looks bad, my spade is sat on, and I see no reason to sacrifice. Another factor is the possible damage to partnership morale. When I make a successful push, to have a better chance at defending, and then partner goes and bids further for bad score, it really annoys me. I also have no idea what partner has to bid like this, my partners never do it, so I would just assume he mis-sorted his hand the first time and raise.But I don't think you can say we have 'pushed them up a level', who's to say RHO was passing 1NT anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cthulhu D Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 There were two problems with this hand:-i never know what I'm supposed to do when partner bids like this since I would personally never pass then bid in a no fit auction like this.-i missaw the vulnerability! we were unfavourable:( I told that to my partner but he thought it would have been a bad bid anyway -800 So, as we all want to know, why DID partner bid like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted January 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 So, as we all want to know, why DID partner bid like that?He had xxxxx in clubs and some points. I didn't follow the play very closely. His reasoning was that "he didn't want to let them play 1NT". I asked him what would have happened if RHO passes and we go for -500 or if I have a less fitting hand and we go for -1100 on the 2-level, he said well RHO didn't pass did she? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 I think partner's sequence shows diamonds as well as clubs, though obviously that's inconsistent with my hand and the rest of the auction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecalm Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 What could possibly the point of bidding 2C if we don't raise with this hand ?I mean, if it was 800 at 3level opposite this hand it could easily be 1400 at 2 level opposite some random hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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