skaftij Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 [hv=pc=n&s=sa6hjt63dat853ckq&d=s&v=n&b=15&a=1dp1sp2dp3s(Gameforce%2C%20good%20suit)p4c(Cuebid%2C%20agreeing%20%21s)p4h(Cuebid)p]133|200[/hv] 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 What would not occur to me is to rebid 2♦ on such a suit. If partner passes 2♦ chances are you are not in a good contract. Among others partner may pass 2♦ with a 4 card heart suit. Either open 1NT or rebid 1NT. The hand qualifies in my opinion for opening 1NT (15-17).Cue bidding 4♣ is okay. But over 4♥ I would certainly not press on. Partner is likely to misjudge because of the 2♦ rebid. With a singleton in ♦ he will devalue his hand and with ♦ Jxx or ♦Qx he will believe there is a double fit. Rainer Herrmann 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 I'm ok with rebidding diamonds because of systemic reasons. 1NT is ok too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 I couldn't vote for 'other' on the last poll: I would cue 5♦ over 4♥. I certainly wouldn't cue clubs again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 opening 1d and rebidding 1n LIMITS the hand (to say 15-17 balanced) the 2d rebid can usually be made with a much wider range of hands. The downside of not rebidding 1n with this balanced hand is that p never knows you are sobalanced. Somewhere below or at game level theone of the undefined hands need to define itselfand a sign off at 4s (over 4h) is a place to start even though it is too late IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbodell Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 While the KQ tight is a negative, the two T and the reasonable 5 card suit make this seem as much like 15 as 14 to me. Being able to open 1♦ and support hearts and bid 1nt over 1♠ seems like a fine plan. Over 3♠ a cue seems wise given the controls in your hand and the pretty good Ax support. Given what you've shown so far, a cautious 4♠ seems right. There is some chance that you miss slam if partner has xx in diamonds with an otherwise good hand and reads your caution for quick diamond losers. But I think if slam is good, he'll probably make a move over 4♠ anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecalm Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 W/E. This pair should forget about all bidding problems until they stop making 2♦ bid on ATxxx :)Now it's pure lottery, partner values his ♦Qxx high and his Kxx as the nuts. There is no chance whatsover for intelligent slam bidding now so we can just as well pull the rkcb and punt 6 hoping his SI is based on general strength and not ♦ fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skaftij Posted January 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 .... With a singleton in ♦ he will devalue his hand and with ♦ Jxx or ♦Qx he will believe there is a double fit. Rainer Herrmann Obviously, a singleton fits well with A10863 and Qx(x) is useful against KJ1083. Would you open the hand with 1NT with that Diamond holding?[hv=pc=n&s=sa6hjt63dkjt85ckq]133|100[/hv] 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 Keycard. If for whatever reason 1D->2D is systemic you now have a maximum and partner is still interested. We have a solid trump Ace filler, diamond control, doubleton club which could be ensure a ruff or as a last resort maybe even the JT of hearts come into play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 Would have opened 1N, now we have a normal keycard bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 Easy 1N opening and hate the 2♦ rebid although in some old school weak NT systems it's OK. I don't hate a 1N rebid but it's overstating the hand with a 14, a thin suit and about 2/3 of our points stuffed into short suits. The 10's are nice though. Someone needs to step up and grab the reins in these auctions. I don't like 5♣ or 5♦ because it makes the auction difficult. Our hand is very useful - actually its the nuts, so I would just bid RKC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted January 10, 2012 Report Share Posted January 10, 2012 Obviously, a singleton fits well with A10863 and Qx(x) is useful against KJ1083. Would you open the hand with 1NT with that Diamond holding?[hv=pc=n&s=sa6hjt63dkjt85ckq]133|100[/hv] I would not rebid diamonds even with this holding. I prefer a six card suit unless there seems to be no alternative. But rebidding diamonds is more sensible here. I still open 1NT. Rainer Herrmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcphee Posted January 10, 2012 Report Share Posted January 10, 2012 I would have opened 1NT downgrading the hand a tad because of KQ. 2D shows a 6 card suit for most. I assume the 3S call was forcing can be the only reason to cue 4C which I think is sensible enough. After 4H a simple 4S is plenty. Once the hand is downgraded from a strong NT, and we have advised partner we DO not hold a balanced hand 12-14 I think we have done enough damage to the bidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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