myprac Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 [hv=sn=obree&s=SJ98742HAQJDCK954&wn=Robot&w=S63H32DKJT8754CJ3&nn=Robot&n=SAK5HK654DA932C62&en=Robot&e=SQTHT987DQ6CAQT87&d=s&v=e&b=3&a=PP1D(Minor%20suit%20opening%20--%203+%20D%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points)P1S(One%20over%20one%20--%204+%20S%3B%2011-%20HCP%3B%206-12%20tota)P1N(2-5%20C%3B%204-5%20D%3B%202-4%20H%3B%202-3%20S%3B%2012-14%20HCP)P2S(Retreat%20from%20notrump%20--%205+%20S%3B%206-11%20total)PPD(4+%20C%3B%205-%20D%3B%204+%20H%3B%205-%20S%3B%2010-16%20total%20points)PPP&p=H3H4H7HJS2S6SASTSKSQS9S3H5H9HAH2HQD4H6HTS4D5S5C7HKH8C4D7DAD6C5D8C2CTCKC3SJCJC6C8S8DJD2DQS7DKD3CAC9DTD9CQ]400|300|[/hv] GIB did this at two tables. I guess East's balancing double is okay as a two-suited takeout, and I can see the problem it poses for West, but it can't be right to pass here, can it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloa513 Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 [hv=sn=obree&s=SJ98742HAQJDCK954&wn=Robot&w=S63H32DKJT8754CJ3&nn=Robot&n=SAK5HK654DA932C62&en=Robot&e=SQTHT987DQ6CAQT87&d=s&v=e&b=3&a=PP1D(Minor%20suit%20opening%20--%203+%20D%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points)P1S(One%20over%20one%20--%204+%20S%3B%2011-%20HCP%3B%206-12%20tota)P1N(2-5%20C%3B%204-5%20D%3B%202-4%20H%3B%202-3%20S%3B%2012-14%20HCP)P2S(Retreat%20from%20notrump%20--%205+%20S%3B%206-11%20total)PPD(4+%20C%3B%205-%20D%3B%204+%20H%3B%205-%20S%3B%2010-16%20total%20points)PPP&p=H3H4H7HJS2S6SASTSKSQS9S3H5H9HAH2HQD4H6HTS4D5S5C7HKH8C4D7DAD6C5D8C2CTCKC3SJCJC6C8S8DJD2DQS7DKD3CAC9DTD9CQ]400|300|[/hv] GIB did this at two tables. I guess East's balancing double is okay as a two-suited takeout, and I can see the problem it poses for West, but it can't be right to pass here, can it?What both humans bid badly choosing and choose a measley 2♠- its easily 3♠(hopefully not game forcing) . West's bid is a natural 2♣ or 2♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 The poor human bidding is not relevant. GIB currently thinks it needs at least 3 cards in a suit not bid by the opponents to respond to the double. We should fix this. How does this sound: Bid the longest 5+ suit in which the opponents have shown at most 4 cards. If you don't have one of these, bid the longest unbid suit, preferring a major. Should we make an exception for an 8-card suit, and bid it even if the opponent has shown 5? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 How does this sound: Bid the longest 5+ suit in which the opponents have shown at most 4 cards. If you don't have one of these, bid the longest unbid suit, preferring a major.I think GIB should prioritize showing 4 of the unbid major over showing 5 of any suit the opponents have bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 I think GIB should prioritize showing 4 of the unbid major over showing 5 of any suit the opponents have bid.It already does that (in fact, it will bid a 3 card unbid suit if necessary). I'm trying to figure out what it should do when that's not possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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