jillybean Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 After reading the post Phil made about illegal conventions http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/topic/50279-prescribed-penalty-for-use-of-an-illegal-convention/I am wondering if 2♣/1M as ♣ and GF, balanced GF (including 3 card support 1M) is GCC legal? Probably not since clubs could be as short as 2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 After reading the post Phil made about illegal conventions http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/topic/50279-prescribed-penalty-for-use-of-an-illegal-convention/I am wondering if 2♣/1M as ♣ and GF, balanced GF (including 3 card support 1M) is GCC legal? Probably not since clubs could be as short as 2? If it's always game forcing, it's allowed with any meaning. If it's not always game forcing, it has to be natural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted January 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Ok, so it is the 'limit raise' compenent that makes it illegal in the post Phil made? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 (edited) Item 3 under "Responses and Rebids" on the GCC: CONVENTIONAL RESPONSES WHICH GUARANTEE GAME FORCING OR BETTER VALUES. May NOT be part of a relay system. So as long as it's GF and not part of a relay system, it's legal. Edit: I see Phil beat me to it. Edited January 5, 2012 by blackshoe cross posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 This means that a Polish 2C response which could be balanced GF or natural with clubs (but not GF) is not GCC legal. Or, so it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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