Yu18772 Posted January 3, 2012 Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 http://tinyurl.com/88fjeea A. GIB doesnt have a 4th trump to justify the lawB. At these colors, double with GIBs hand is practically mandatory http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloa513 Posted January 3, 2012 Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 http://tinyurl.com/88fjeea A. GIB doesnt have a 4th trump to justify the lawB. At these colors, double with GIBs hand is practically mandatory http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gifThe simulations strike again- overriding bidding rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted January 3, 2012 Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 sorry but double is not 'practically mandatory' - in GIB's system double is penalty. You may double if you like with your trumps, but that is slightly aggressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgi Posted January 3, 2012 Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 http://tinyurl.com/88fjeea A. GIB doesnt have a 4th trump to justify the lawB. At these colors, double with GIBs hand is practically mandatory http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif A - correct, it will be fixedB - GIB uses otherwise, it uses to show max values for the 2♥ and penalty length in spades. It's not reopening to test trap pass. 1♥ - Pass - 2♥ - 2♠Double - is also penalty for GIB. So in this case North "knows" partner didn't want to penalize the overcall as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yu18772 Posted January 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 Ok, sorry about B- I didnt know that GIB plays it as actual spades rather than maximal hand with shortness (seems not very practical to me, but good to know). http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 It is quite a common expert agreement (maximum balanced being the other one). maximum with shortness is odd. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yu18772 Posted January 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 I guess formally it just shows a max hand for the raise and willingness to compete (unless partner can penalize). It is pretty rare that you want to compete with 9 points and 3 cards in opponents suit, so I dont remember when was the last time I (or my p) bid it with more than doubleton, especially forcing partner to 3 level over ♠. This agreement always made more sense to me than waiting for the hand that has a singe raise only, but can penalty double a suit sitting in the finesse at 2 level opposite potentially minmum opener.http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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