fpancoe Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 Red vs Red, last board of online imp tournament. Average opponents You are 4th out of 100+ pairs KJxAxxxAQxxKx 1nt strong on your right. You don't play penalty doubles. Methods are x shows 4cardM/5 card m. 2m= 4 card m/5 card major 1. Do you bid? 2. Do you play penalty doubles over strong nt? TIA Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 IMO, no and no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmcw Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 1. I pass2. Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 1. I pass2. Yes, or to be more accurate I play that double is either penalties or a good strong NT opening (i.e. partner is free to pull it) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 My answers are no and no. If I remember correctly, JLall has advocated penalty doubles of strong NT openers in other threads. Perhaps he will comment on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 I don't get this first question. You don't have a method to show this hand, so what do you want to bid? Easy pass imo. I don't play penalty doubles over strong 1NT openings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 NoYes, I play double as strong balanced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 I choose a call, X as I have no suit worth bidding. In answer to your second question this is a penalty X. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbodell Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 I pass playing your methods. I play a penalty double over strong nt in most of my partnerships. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 My answers are no and no. If I remember correctly, JLall has advocated penalty doubles of strong NT openers in other threads. Perhaps he will comment on this one. Not really much to add to what I have said before. I like penalty Xs and you have to pass with this not playing them. It's not the worst thing ever on this hand if you actually have no spot cards as your lead options are horrible, but if partner bids something you have the perfect hand obv. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 I don't get this first question. You don't have a method to show this hand, so what do you want to bid? Easy pass imo. I don't play penalty doubles over strong 1NT openings. Doubled! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcphee Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 This is not the sort of hand to act over strong NT with a dble. I like penalty dble of NT, . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 Did you pick your methods to have no 15+ bal in direct seat?Your choice, live with this one.Hope you have a less stringent reopening structure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 One thing nobody quite said: "If I had double avaijable to use over a strong NT -- at these colors, and with this hand, I still would not double." I haven't quite said it, either; but it is something to consider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 One thing nobody quite said: "If I had double avaijable to use over a strong NT -- at these colors, and with this hand, I still would not double." I haven't quite said it, either; but it is something to consider. 1. I pass2. Yes, or to be more accurate I play that double is either penalties or a good strong NT opening (i.e. partner is free to pull it) NoYes, I play double as strong balanced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 Question number one is based on the condition that double means something else.Question number two is an inquiry about other methods. The the answers by those persons quoted by Mr. Ace do not address #3: "Would there be folks who would consider not doubling with the given hand, if double showed a strong NT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 To clarify the meaning of my earlier post:- I wouldn't act with the methods in the original post, because I can't.- Playing my preferred methods, I would double, because I have a balanced 17-count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 yes but just barely I play the x as a strong nt 16 1/2 + ORa 1 suited hand similar to Ax Axx KQJTxx xx both aredesigned to be penalty and I want p to leave them in with say 6+roughly balanced (straining to bid 2c if unable to stand the x) OR with weak one or 2 suiter to bid their (lowest) suit. I would be a ton happier with this hand with some tens thrown in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamford Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 1. I pass2. I play double as Majors/Minors/Diamonds, but am considering changing to playing that only by a passed hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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