luckyloser Posted December 23, 2011 Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 in robot-tournaments it makes little sense to let robots play a hand as declarer. why not switch sides and let the human play the hand. if you think this would interfere with the structure of the game then maybe at least in some robot tourneys this would be a nice alternative! :rolleyes: this can hardly be difficult to realize, can it? :angry: :angry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmcw Posted December 23, 2011 Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 in robot-tournaments it makes little sense to let robots play a hand as declarer. why not switch sides and let the human play the hand. if you think this would interfere with the structure of the game then maybe at least in some robot tourneys this would be a nice alternative! :rolleyes: this can hardly be difficult to realize, can it? :angry: :angry: ditto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted December 23, 2011 Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 This has been requested dozens of times. I'm not sure what the issues are, but if it were easy for us to do I think we would have done it long ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted December 24, 2011 Report Share Posted December 24, 2011 from the "Suggestions for Software" forumI played for the 1st time several days ago, and ,as it happened, my robot partner played 7 of the 10 hands. It seems to me that it would be far more enjoyable for the live participants if they were allowed to play all the hands for their side, even if they were actually the dummy. This would also better differentiate the skill level of the players in determining the order of finish. One would think this would be a minor programming effort. Sincerely, Robert Lipsitz...Robert - welcome to BBO and BBO Forums... Unfortunately the (good IMO) idea you mention is a lot more difficult to achieve than one would think due to some poor early design decisions. We have tried to work on this at least a couple of times, but so far we have been unable to get it right. I am guessing that eventually we will try again and that we will succeed one day, but I don't think this is likely to happen in the near future (sorry). Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.com PS I think you were somewhat "unlucky" to be dummy so often - usually that doesn't happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyloser Posted December 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2011 This has been requested dozens of times. I'm not sure what the issues are, but if it were easy for us to do I think we would have done it long ago. thanks for the quick answer! i really appreciate that! let me explain a few points: *) my name is Martin, did a false name slip into the database?*) i registered several years ago and now gave the robot tourneys another try, it is oftne that inexperienced users find some bugs that nobody notices anymore bec one is used to them. however i did not want do shine with suggestions made many times before, i only did not have time to read all forum posts. sorry about that.*) i am not sure but i think some years ago seats where switched so that the human player became declarer instead of GIB....??*) it can well be that i wound up as dummy very often... this is because of my bidding style offering a contract instead of immediately bidding it. for instance: i hold AQxxx,Kxx,AJxx,J. the bidding goes: 1s - 2c, 2d - 3d,? i bid 3 h to ask for a partial stopper and to make the hand with (the hoped for) qx declarer. apparently many players simply bid 3nt when playing with robots to make sure they become declarer and to avoid any misunderstandigs. this i think is not a good idea bec one ruins good bidding. while i understand that a robot may follow different paths when playing a hand there should not be a different bidding strategy else playing with robots will not improve but destroy your game! let me stress the last point (i hope this has not been suggested too often... :rolleyes: ): while GIB makes some good decisions slow bidding is not best. especially probing for 3nt does not work particularly well; sometimes GIB raises on two small even though it can supply 2 stoppers in the suit in question.... maybe this can be fixed some time. regards martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 *) my name is Martin, did a false name slip into the database?What false name? If you mean Robert, that's because Bradley copied a post that Fred wrote several months ago in response to someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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