Zelandakh Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 With the HCP favouring the opponents they now trot out the red card and you end up red-faced!3♦X is 2 off on best defence. How many hearts can E-W make? How many West players do you think will pass over 2♠ with 4 card support for partner's major and a void in the opps' known fit? Whether the South hand qualifies for a FSJ is certainly questionable (I would bid 1♠) but using this as an example of "trouble" is pretty silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32519 Posted May 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 3♦X is 2 off on best defence. How many hearts can E-W make? How many West players do you think will pass over 2♠ with 4 card support for partner's major and a void in the opps' known fit? Whether the South hand qualifies for a FSJ is certainly questionable (I would bid 1♠) but using this as an example of "trouble" is pretty silly. You’re focusing too much on the hand itself and not enough on the principle that I was trying to illustrate; the principle being that I don’t believe that fit jumps are appropriate when all four hands are bidding. By all means, shuffle the cards around in any combination which you choose. Just don’t lose sight of the principle. This thread has already attracted a fair amount of views which tells me that others are interested in what is being discussed. A lot of players know about the Snapdragon Double. How may of these players actually use it? I have absolutely no idea. I am willing to put my head on the chopping block here and say that not enough partnerships using Snapdragon have detailed agreements on its wider possible applications. More to follow here as I have another idea on how Snapdragon can be made more useful. Watch this space! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 You’re focusing too much on the hand itself and not enough on the principle that I was trying to illustrate; the principle being that I don’t believe that fit jumps are appropriate when all four hands are bidding.Could you provide what you see as a more productive use for a 2♠ or 3♠ bid on this auction? Even on an unsuitable hand tailor-made to be as bad as possible a fit jump was actually not at all bad. Now switch a heart to the ♦Q in the South hand, for example, and where do you want to be? What about if North has a more suitable hand, perhaps switch the black suits around. Can you really not see that the FJ gives you an immediate advantage here of finding your double fit (or lack thereof) before the opponents can? Making the opponents guess before they can obtain complete information is winning bridge. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 I am willing to put my head on the chopping block here and say that not enough partnerships using Snapdragon have detailed agreements on its wider possible applications. What do you consider "enough"? When I make a Snapdragon Double my partner usually makes the next bid and our side plays the hand. Those are my agreements and given the frequency of the convention, I am happy with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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