Flame Posted October 17, 2004 Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 This is a nice hand i played last nightThe bidding goes(2♠) p (p) 3♣p 3♠ (D) 3NTp p (D) RDouble**(i become brave late into the night)btw does my partner has his 3sp or should he pass?West lead K spade, how will you play ? (on the first club west put the 10)[hv=n=s7hqj43dq8732ca95&s=sa95ha8dajcj87632]133|200|[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted October 17, 2004 Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 i duck the first 2 spades... if i lead a club from hand i have to beat lho's card, whatever it is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Posted October 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 i duck the first 2 spades... if i lead a club from hand i have to beat lho's card, whatever it is... Yes LHO put the 10, you put the A, and then what ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted October 17, 2004 Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 Flame, I think your partner would do better to raise to 4C with his hand. The S singleton is nice, but the hand is no full of Quacks that I think 4C is much better.You would bid 5C with your control rich hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted October 17, 2004 Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 Anyway it seems you have the same chances at 3NT than at 5♣: you need both fineses onside if ♣ are 3-1. So 2 rounds of ♣ is what I would play. I doubt anyone woudl double with ♣Qx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 5C will make on most 2-2 breaks where 3N may well not Fluffy. With Kx rho should ditch the K under the A to give his partner a c entry. Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Posted October 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 5C will make on most 2-2 breaks where 3N may well not Fluffy. With Kx rho should ditch the K under the A to give his partner a c entry. Ron So how about if clubs are 3-1 ? what to play after the A of club ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 You play Q of H first as rho can't cover without giving you an entry for the D hook. If this holds now take D hook. Trap is not to take the D hook first as you will have no entry to dummy. If you throw rho in with a C, he can cash 2 clubs and exit a D to your A. I don't see much else apart from playing rho for both red kings - quite possible on the bidding. Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 Jimmy, i think got it right, and I don't see any improvement to his plan so far. West should have 6 spades.... so east 3. Duck to third round to break communication...Then lead club 8 and let ride unless WEST covers.. then play as high as you have too... 5!C and three ACES is 8 tricks, so i still need to find one red king. There is huge transportation problem however. If WEST plays a club honor... and east has one red king, you will need to guess the red kimg and find so when ACE wins, you take that finessee and then "drop" the outstanding clubs. I'd rather play EAST for KTx, QTx, KQ, QT of clubs and both red aces... So I lead club towards dummy just beating what WEST plays, if West plays an honor, I go up with the ACE and return the suit. I will set up a slow red suit on an enplay on east latter.... Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtfanclub Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 This is a nice hand i played last nightThe bidding goes(2♠) p (p) 3♣p 3♠ (D) 3NTp p (D) RDouble**(i become brave late into the night)btw does my partner has his 3sp or should he pass?West lead K spade, how will you play ? (on the first club west put the 10)[hv=n=s7hqj43dq8732ca95&s=sa95ha8dajcj87632]133|200|[/hv] I notice nobody has tried my idea, so I'll post it. Duck the spade twice, take the third one, and then lead the JACK of clubs. Loses you a trick if clubs are 4-0, but down is down. Wins if clubs are 2-2 with West having Hx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 i duck the first 2 spades... if i lead a club from hand i have to beat lho's card, whatever it is... Yes LHO put the 10, you put the A, and then what ? i play another of course... if west gets in, he gets in but i've tried my best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Posted October 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 Ok i'll tell you the point of this post. From the biding i thought its likely clubs are 3-1 and everything else is at RHO, now like THE_Hog said, you have 4 clubs and one of each other suits, so you need both finneses, if you play diamond finnese first, then you wont have the entry to the heart finnese, if you play Q of heart, RHO will cover and when he get in with clubs he will play hearts, and you will go down losing hearts. The best play is the simplest, play another club, RHO is enplayed and will give u both finnese, if he play diamond u take it with the Q and finnese hearts. Its funny because you are in dummy and you think its the last time ur there so you better use it to take one finnese, but it turn out that not taking any finnese give you enough for two finneses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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