rduran1216 Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 [hv=pc=n&s=saqjt752h42d4cj64&d=n&v=e&b=9&a=pp]133|200[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 3♠ middle of the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 4♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 4♠Agreed, position and vul say this is right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 3♠ MP's4♠ IMP's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbodell Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 I expect to take 6 tricks opposite nothing from partner. I'm favorable. I'm bidding 4♠. If partner does have nothing then they could easily be cold for a slam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 I expect to take 6 tricks opposite nothing from partner. I'm favorable. I'm bidding 4♠. If partner does have nothing then they could easily be cold for a slam.And if partner has some secondary values and length in the red suits along with a singleton ♠ you may go for a number with no terrible breaks and nothing on for them. When you end up with 6 tricks in ♠ it does not follow that partner was broke.RHO passed already and if they still have slam sometimes 3♠ will be more effective to keep them out. 4♠ is easy to double, 3♠ is not. Rainer Herrmann 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flameous Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 ♠T makes me open 4♠. If my club was a heart, I'd be more inclined to open just three, as it's more likely they would end up playing 4m or 3Sx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S2000magic Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 4♠; lefty's gotta be itching to get into the auction. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Pass. Hoping to back into 2S-X, 3S-X later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordontd Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 4♠; lefty's gotta be itching to get into the auction.No reason lefty can't have a balanced ten-count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 No reason lefty can't have a balanced ten-count.Surely you can think of reasons why that's unlikely though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_20686 Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 [hv=pc=n&s=saqjt752h42d4cj64&d=n&v=e&b=9&a=pp]133|200[/hv] 4S. Also, this kinda question best asked in a poll imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fromageGB Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Surely you can think of reasons why that's unlikely though!While I would say the chances are less than 50%, therefore in the literal sense "unlikely", I see no reason to suppose LHO has a 20 count or a game force. That is much more unlikely. My feeling is "normal opening hand" is likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 I would say the chances of LHO holding a balanced 10 count is less than 5%, not 50%. Maybe less than 1%. Nobody said they would play LHO for a 20 count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Looks like a 3S opener to me; will save my divining powers for some other time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 If we open 4♠, then I'd expect that we would end up playing 4♠ doubled much of the time.....maybe not most of the time, but certainly quite often. LHO will frequently have the hand to double and rho will usually not have any reason to pull. So opening 4♠ is committal, while if we open 3♠ and LHO doubles, partner is there to help us.....we probably don't want to be in 4♠ unless partner thinks it's a good idea. Otoh, we certainly increase the chances of a great outcome by maximizing the pressure via 4♠. I think this is close and I don't think that the adherents of either approach can demonstrate that theirs is the better over the long run. Go with whatever style you and partner enjoy. I know that with some partners I would bid 4♠ and with others only 3....I seem to have more fun with the 4♠ bidders tho :D 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 No reason lefty can't have a balanced ten-count. Awesome! Then we might make 4♠. (C'mon people grow a friggin' backbone already :)) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fromageGB Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 ... Nobody said they would play LHO for a 20 count.Of course you are correct in the last sentence. I was merely trying to imply that 3♠ is a sufficient preempt, and that there is no need to open 4 to make slam difficult for them to bid. I should have expressed that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Again, nobody said they would open 4♠ to make slam difficult for them to bid. You might retort that nobody said anything whatsoever about why they would open 4♠. That is a fair point, so let me break this evil trend: I open 4♠ because it looks like a 4♠ opener to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveharty Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 4♠; lefty's gotta be itching to get into the auction.Double is a convenient way to get into the auction. I would open 4S myself but let's not fool ourselves that it necessarily makes it tougher on LHO when he does have a good hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 4♠. My partner would laugh at me if I opened 3 on this in 3rd seat at favourable. Second choice 1S. Third choice 1NT. Fourth choice 2NT. Fifth choice 2C (I've never tried that one, but you never know...) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 4♠. My partner would laugh at me if I opened 3 on this in 3rd seat at favourable. Second choice 1S. Third choice 1NT. Fourth choice 2NT. Fifth choice 2C (I've never tried that one, but you never know...)You forgot 1♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 4♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 4♠. My partner would laugh at me if I opened 3 on this in 3rd seat at favourable. Best answer, IMO, even though 4S is not my choice. Best, because partner is the only one whose opinions and expectations should matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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