jjsb Posted May 26, 2003 Report Share Posted May 26, 2003 hey everyone :) it's been some times i haven't send u some deals . Those one come from my last "real" bridge competition played this week-end . we played very very bad and i think Sometimes it's good that happened . there's moment u play bridge often and u have the impression that "you got it" , that you're doing very well, that u can find all squeeze, and there's those day, well, u have to remember that , to be humble in bridge is one of the most important hings cause u're always miles away of the "perfection". here's one easy game i go down that just showed concretely what i have written before and one problem of bidding . 1) bidding first i don't think the vulnerability is that important, i don't remember to be honest ... you're south , u hold, QJ10x Qxxxxx Qx K W-------N---------E---------SP--------1D-------P---------1H1S------3C--------P---------3ntp--------4S!-------P---------? u can disagree with the bid made before (3nt) and u can disagree with the bid of North when i'll show 2 hands !! but well , now u need find a bid ! what would u bid if u have : QJ10x Qxxxxx Q Kx 2) cold 4S ...... KxJxKJ10xxAxxx AQJxxAKxxxxxx east open 1D (first and last bid from opps) and then u go to 4S (played by south). a) lead is 2 of D (3/5) whatever u play in dummy east will play and switch back SB) lead is a "middle" C plan ur play in both cases, don't go too fast like me plsss . regardssyl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted May 26, 2003 Report Share Posted May 26, 2003 bidding first i don't think the vulnerability is that important, i don't remember to be honest ... you're south , u hold, QJ10x Qxxxxx Qx K W-------N---------E---------SP--------1D-------P---------1H1S------3C--------P---------3ntp--------4S!-------P---------? u can disagree with the bid made before (3nt) and u can disagree with the bid of North when i'll show 2 hands !! but well , now u need find a bid ! what would u bid if u have : QJ10x Qxxxxx Q Kx I expect pd to have a 0-3-6-4 or 0-3-7-3 something along the lines of the followingvoidAKxAKJxxxxAxx Note that with this 7H is an excellent contract. How much do you trust your partner? Are you willing to bid 7H?Playing with a regular pd this is what I would expect. However here I am not certain. I do have 2 golden cards. KC and DQ. 6D seems to be a making contract, so that is my bid here. KxJxKJ10xxAxxx AQJxxAKxxxxxx east open 1D (first and last bid from opps) and then u go to 4S (played by south). a) lead is 2 of D (3/5) whatever u play in dummy east will play and switch back SB) lead is a "middle" C Sorry don't understand this one. Was the lead a D or a C? Are you saying that regardless of which D I play from dummy, East will win? What are my H pips- any at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsb Posted May 26, 2003 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2003 a) lead is 2 of D (3/5) whatever u play in dummy east will play and switch back SB) lead is a "middle" C plan ur play in both cases, don't go too fast like me plsss . sorry wasn't clear at all. i want to know how you'd play if lead is a) 2 of Diamond (what happened at my table), and how u'd play (if there's difference) if lead is :) "middle" C. what i mean on a D lead is if u play J east will play the Q and switch Spade and if u play K east will take with the ace and switch S. sorry wasn't clear at all , u know... the english of french :) regardssyl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rado Posted May 26, 2003 Report Share Posted May 26, 2003 Hi Sylvain,1. Partner seems to have monster minors 2 -suiter, something like:x, A, AKxxxx AQJxx, or -, Ax in majors or A, x , even Ax, -Partner failed to bid 4Cl or 4Di which would show a weaker hand (x, Ax, AKxxx, AQJxx for example) so I will bid my better minor on level 66Di with Di Qx and singl K Cl6Cl with Di singl Q and Kx in Cl 2. After Di lead take Sp from hand and low He to J keeping all chances open (including ruffing finesse in Di for the 10th trick)After Cl Lead (which is stronger than Di) - A of L and AK 3rd He ruff maybe Best regards, Rado Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted May 27, 2003 Report Share Posted May 27, 2003 On D lead - win AS play a H to J On a C lead. Win playAK of H attempt to ruff a H low Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted May 27, 2003 Report Share Posted May 27, 2003 I expect pd to have a 0-3-6-4 or 0-3-7-3 something along the lines of the followingvoidAKxAKJxxxxAxx I am with Rado on this auction rather than Ron's hand above. With that hand, I expect partner to make a support double of 1 SPADE and/or bid 2S (game force) then show diamonds then heart support. And like Ron, I am confused by description of a middle club. Who played a club? My plan is to go ahead and establish the DIAMOND for a club discard. There are basically three lines. 1) Play West for heart QUEEN (if east wins heart Queen and returns a trump, you seem to be toast on 4-2 heart splits), or hearts 3-3. 2) Play West for 3 or 4 hearts. Here you can elope with your low trumps.... Win Spade Ace in hand, cash heart AK, ruff heart with spade king. Lead Diamond K, ruff the ace, cross to the club ACE, cash the good diamond for a club discard, ruff a club with your last little trump, and score your master two trumps, giving up a trump at the end. (if west has 3D and 2H this line will fail, as you will never enjoy your established diamond). 3) Play West for 2 little hearts (4-2-3-4). Here the line is much more exotic. Win spade king. Ruff out the diamond stopper, then pull trumps. This results in a strip endplay of EAST, who has to keep diamonds. If he throws a heart, you can duck a heart. If he keeps four hearts, you cash club ace, diamond T, and throw him in with a diamond for a forced heart return away from his Queen. Which line is best? I think you can eliminate East holding CLUB KQJ from most considerations. 1) Many people with DAQxx CKQJ(x) open 1C, 2) With KQJ(x) many would lead the club KING to take away late entry to potential diamond winner(s), and 3) the defense of returning a trump would not occur to a fair number of people unless they were looking at fairly good hearts, say HQT9(x). So I discard entirely the line of a low heart towards the Jack. So that leaves me with the strip squeeze ending if hearts are 2-4 with East having 2, or the trump elopement if hearts are 4-2. Since I believe a trump back is more likely with four hearts than with two, I play for the throw in ending... Trick 2.. SKTrick 3.. DK-DA-Sx-dxTrick 4-6.... spades from top..... East held originally, S-xxH-QT9xD-AQxxC-KJx After 6 tricks, must keep 4 hearts or I duck a heart. Must keep 2 diamond, or dummy diamonds are good. So is left with only one club. Now, if I feel like I have read the position correctly and hearts were 2-4 not 3-3, I play club to ace. Cash the top diamond, and throw East in with a diamond. I will win three hearts... for 5S, 3H, 1C, and 1D. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted May 27, 2003 Report Share Posted May 27, 2003 Reason I postulated the strong 0373 or 0364 was because surely with the hand rado, and you propose Ben, opener has a 2C opening; it is a 3 loser hand after all. This might be a cause of the "dog that didn't bark in the night". Why was there no 2C opening? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted May 27, 2003 Report Share Posted May 27, 2003 Reason I postulated the strong 0373 or 0364 was because surely with the hand rado, and you propose Ben, opener has a 2C opening; it is a 3 loser hand after all. This might be a cause of the "dog that didn't bark in the night". Why was there no 2C opening? The reason is that with a two suiter like this, is if you open 2CLUBS, the bidding will be at 4S or 5S by the time the bidding gets back to you. There are two dog's that didn't bark on this hand. First I play the jump to 3CLUBS as non-forcing, using 2S as the only 100% forcing bid. So neither hand would I bid this way. But if 3CLUBS was forcing, I would use it to show a hand similar to the one Rado suggested rather than the one you did. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted May 28, 2003 Report Share Posted May 28, 2003 Accept the reasoning, but still think it is a 2C opening. I don't play 2/1 any more, but if I opened this 2C and the bidding proceeded:2C (3S) P (4S) X would be primarily t/o, but obviously show cards as well4Nt - some big 2 suiter While I normally agree with the policy of not opening 2 suiters with 2C, I think Rado's hand is too strong not too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsb Posted May 28, 2003 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2003 hey everyone , thanks for answer ! so for number 1, here's partner's hand void AxAKJxxxx (7)AQxx my opinion (wrong it seem with the comment u made) is that with 4S partner should not have a real 2 suiter . with a 2 suiter he can just continue with 4C (forcing) or 5C if h's a little more weak and after all want to play that contract. i don't like double over 1S with that hand . open 2C , well , when i can find ways not open an hand 2C ... i admit i do it ! anyway all that to say i choose a stupid bid again (5D) i was able to play it for +2 (S lead) other table 6D , vulnerable it's another 12 :) for number 2 here's the complete deal --------------Kx--------------Jx--------------KJ10xx--------------Axxx10xx--------------------9xx109xx-------------------Qxxxx----------------------AQ9xQ10x--------------------KJ9x--------------AQJxx--------------AKxxx--------------x--------------xx at my table i had the Diamond lead and switch Spade and i stupidely continue the play by taking in dummy with K, ruff finesse D, cross dummy with Ace of club, discard the C on the winning D (i can still recover), and play now AK of H and H ... ruff and overruff . and finish down one . on other table declarer received the Club lead, he took in dummy, play directly Ace King of H and H ruff high . for just made and so -12 . on my beginning (D lead S switch) i like that simple play of taking immedaitely in hand and play AK of H and H ruff high that win if one major in defense is 3-3 (whatever the major is) and also win if east is 4243 (108xx, Qx, AQ10x, KJ9). the line of play choosen by ben also work very well of course if one major is 3-3 and if east got (2443) has he explains he's in . there's no line of play to win in both cases (east 2443 or 4243) so i let u choose the one u like :) . regardssyl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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