Fluffy Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 ♠AQ9xx♥Qxx♦Kx♣9xx MPs, opps vul, south deals pass-(1♥)-X-(pass)?? You might had opened the hand, but assume you didn´t. What do you bid now? If you try 2♥... partner bids 2♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BunnyGo Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 When did han get a boss suit? I've never seen him in any suit, let alone a boss one. And what's with the 80s slang? I'll just bid 2♠. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbodell Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 I'll bid 2♠ directly. If I bid 2♥ and partner did what he did I'd pass. In both situations I'll bid 3♠ if the opponents push us there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 3♠. Because I can. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mich-b Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 3♠. Because it shows what I have (strong invite with 5♠). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbenvic Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 2♥ was my first thought and pass after partner bids. Will compete to 3 if the opponents act. if I had xxx♥ and Qxx♣ i'd bid 3 over partners bid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 2♥ has the huge disadvantage that it wrongsides spades if partner has four of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Can we skip these wrongsiding issues pls? They're really tertiary. Anyway the hand is clearly worth 3S. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Can we skip these wrongsiding issues pls?No, we can't. Well, you can skip them if you like, but I'm not going to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 I think 2♠ is enough. The fact that ♥s were not raised makes it unlikely that partner has a singleton or void in ♥. If partner bids again over 2♠, but below 3NT, I will suggest 3NT next even if he raises ♠s. I would not open this hand in first seat. Rainer Herrmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 I think it close between 2♠ and 2♥. I think 2♠ would be too much of an underbid at imps, but this is mps. I can't bid 3♠ in my methods, and I don't miss it. I accept that there are a few holdings on which playing spades from our side gains us a tempo, but this won't happen enough to worry me too much. Last time I discussed takeout doubles with partner, we sort of agreed that it usually implied shortness in their suit :P Yes, Ax is shortness and, yes, if opener chose to lead from his K against my spade contract, I'd save a trick....and, yes, I know that isn't the only layout that matters, but rightsiding is still probably irrelevant on this auction. As for what to do: if I cuebid, I cannot pass 2♠. What is partner supposed to do with a good but not huge takeout double and Kxxx in spades? Bid 3♠? Cue 3♥? No...3♠ would show a hand and suit too good to overcall, and 3♥ would be a BIG hand. Edit: I don't mean it has to be a slam try, tho slam tries would be included.....a 15 count 4144 would be a 3♥ call for me...but we don't need him to have that good a hand to have a decent game. We have to raise to 3♠, non-forcing. Bear in mind that if we think the hand too good for 2♠, cuebidding and passing is weird....it is far worse than bidding 2♠ because you have given partner zero chance to evaluate. I would bid 2♥ then 3♠, but I wouldn't quarrel much with 2♠ given the conditions of contest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWO4BRIDGE Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Anyway the hand is clearly worth 3S.I agree. And Eagle's answer is consistent with his reply to my recent post with about the same auction ( http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/topic/49547-partners-double-jump-in-new-suit/ ) . 1S = 0-7 and 4 spades, 0-4 and 5 spades2S = 8-10 and 4 spades, 5-7 and 5 spades3S = 8-10 and 5 spades, 5-7 and 6 spades (with 4 spades and 11+ you bid 2H)4S = 10-12 and 5 spades, 8-10 and 6 spades . MORE OR LESS :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S2000magic Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 And what's with the 80s slang?A Hugo Boss suit. 3♠. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 2♠ for me.(3 is not available, i play it 6 cards very weak hand) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 No, we can't. Well, you can skip them if you like, but I'm not going to. And that's why you'll never be as good as me, HA! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted December 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 +170 brings 13/14 MPs when opponent fails to unblock clubs in time, so no need to get to game. Partner had ♠K10xx♥Kx♦Qxx♣A10xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbenvic Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 +170 brings 13/14 MPs when opponent fails to unblock clubs in time, so no need to get to game. Partner had ♠K10xx♥Kx♦Qxx♣A10xx How did your auction go? Did you bid 2♥ or bid/jump in spades? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cthulhu D Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Would anyone consider opening in first seat? I'd probably open (not playing precision, but in an environment where aggressive bidding is frequent from even LOLs). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbodell Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Would anyone consider opening in first seat? I'd probably open (not playing precision, but in an environment where aggressive bidding is frequent from even LOLs). I'd happily open playing a strong club system, and/or playing a mini-nt, and/or playing a semi-forcing nt. But playing normal 2/1 or SA I'd pass in first seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Would anyone consider opening in first seat? I'd probably open (not playing precision, but in an environment where aggressive bidding is frequent from even LOLs).Me too. It is slightly pushing it but we have spades NV at MP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted December 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 How did your auction go? Did you bid 2♥ or bid/jump in spades?I´m a 3♠ bidder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 Would anyone consider opening in first seat? I'd probably open (not playing precision, but in an environment where aggressive bidding is frequent from even LOLs).I would open 1NT, perhaps not everyone's cup of tea though. On the question at hand I basically agreed with everything Mike wrote so just upvoted it to be lazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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