Fluffy Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 ♠QJxx♥K10x♦AJ9x♣xx Mps, all vul. South deals. pass-(1♥)-X-(3♥)?? If you double... Partner bids 3♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbodell Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 I'd bid 3♠ directly and if I doubled and partner did what's in the spoiler I'd pass on my next chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BunnyGo Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 I'd bid 3♠. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 I think it's a matter of partnership agreement rather than judgement. Either of these styles is playable:(1) With four spades advancer bids 3♠; double normally denies four spades(2) 3♠ shows either five or a hand that can only play spades; double includes hands with four spades (as well as hands with no major); facing a double, the doubler bids spades if he has them. If we knew that LHO was going to pass over a double, (2) would work well. However, it works badly if opener reraises. Hence I prefer (1), which would make this hand a 3♠ bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mich-b Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 I think it's a matter of partnership agreement rather than judgement. Either of these styles is playable:(1) With four spades advancer bids 3♠; double normally denies four spades(2) 3♠ shows either five or a hand that can only play spades; double includes hands with four spades (as well as hands with no major); facing a double, the doubler bids spades if he has them. If we knew that LHO was going to pass over a double, (2) would work well. However, it works badly if opener reraises. Hence I prefer (1), which would make this hand a 3♠ bid. I think this may be a 3♠ bid even playing (2) , since my alternative minor is only a 4 card suit , and my ♠ suit (together with my ♥ holding) is good enough to handle the rare occasion when 3♠ is a 4-3 fit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbenvic Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 I like to use X here to show 4s and a good hand for play or defense and 3s as a hand with good offence but not good defence. with AJ♦ and KTx♥ plus a 4342 shape I double, You never know partner might convert to penalties and Plus 200 is a great score. If partner bids 3♠ I pass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWO4BRIDGE Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 A DBL now is Responsive... showing the minors . You have Spades... bid them, when partner most likely has them also. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbenvic Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 A DBL now is Responsive... showing the minors . You have Spades... bid them, when partner most likely has them also. You're a passed hand opposite a t/o X wanting to compete in 4m vunerable? Isn't more important to identify the real strength hand with the I'm just competing hand? How to you whack a frisky opponent who bids 3♥ light, even for a preemptive raise? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Double, i use #2 style of Andy's list. But just because OP said if we double pd bids 3♠, doesnt neccesarilly what pd would bid if we agreed to play this style. I like this style especially when preempters are extremely agressive and/or unpredictable preempt style (such as often jump to 3 with only 3 card supp and also all 4 card supp). I like the #1 of Andy's list if they preempt predictable and conservative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted December 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 I doubled and perhaps this had some preemptive effect on LHO who was 0535, and decided to pass for the rest of the auction. Bad players don´t understand take out doubles. 3♠ with 5-0 split was not a success, but 4♥ was cold anyway. I thikn 3♠ -100 was 12/14 MPs, the top was 3♠ making. -500 in 4♠ would had been below average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 3S. Not happy of doing this with 4 cards only, but that's the only non-messy bid I can come up with (unless I have the agreement this shows any 2 4-card suits). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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