Gerben42 Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 Perhaps someone should point out to GIB that 4NT in competition is only then natural when we have bid 3NT to play before.This happened: [hv=d=n&v=0&b=1&a=1sp3s4d4spp4nppp]133|100[/hv] 4NT was explained by GIB as 15+ with 4+♦. He passed and GIB opponent smartly didn't double as he took 4NT five off with 5♣X only down 1. It was still over average as 4♠ was making, but still... Not finding a ruff lets 5♣ through. I guess this applies in many situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manudude03 Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 Yeah, 4NT as artificial should really be standard. The more frustrating one is bidding 4NT after bidding an unusual 2NT, gib thinks that is to play as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BunnyGo Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 I don't think it plays unusual 4NT over a 3M pre-empt either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 [hv=lin=pn|Gerben42,~~M11190,~~M11188,~~M11189|st%7C%7Cmd%7C2S7H36D25TJQKC69KA%2CS28TJKAH48QD9C58Q%2CS39H5TJAD38C347TJ%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%208%7Csv%7Co%7Cmb%7C1S%7Can%7CMajor%20suit%20opening%20--%205%2B%20S%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points%20%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3S%7Can%7CLimit%20major%20raise%20--%204%2B%20S%3B%2010-12%20total%20points%20%7Cmb%7C4D%7Can%7COvercall%20--%204%2B%20D%3B%2015%2B%20total%20points%7Cmb%7C4S%7Can%7C5%2B%20S%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points%20%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C4N%7Can%7C4%2B%20D%3B%2015%2B%20total%20points%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CH2%7C]360|270[/hv]Actually, 4♦ is explained as 4+D; 15+ total points. It appears to me that GIB had no idea what 4N was, and therefore simply restated the same description for 4N. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 He passed and GIB opponent smartly didn't double as he took 4NT five off with 5♣X only down 1. I haven't analyzed the play at those tables, but all three N/S pairs who played 5♣x were -300, worse than your -250. Traveller: http://online.bridgebase.com/myhands/hands.php?traveller=9174-1322307361-65338754&username=Gerben42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 Not finding a ruff lets 5♣ through. You don't think EW will always manage to get 2 aces and the off-side ♣Q? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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