Mbodell Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 [hv=pc=n&n=saj9hkj7dacaq8652&d=e&v=b&b=10&a=p3dp]133|200[/hv] Your call? If it matters partner is a little wide ranging on preempts, but does pay attention to seat and vulnerability, and 2♦ would have been a natural weak 2 and 4♦ would also have be natural and weak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 Keycard seems fine. Unless pard has assorted junk like QJTxxxx and out, I might make 6D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordontd Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 Keycard seems fine. Unless pard has assorted junk like QJTxxxx and out, I might make 6D.Keycard won't tell you whether you're off two heart tricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 In my world, this is a decision about whether to bid 5♦ or stop in a partscore. If you give partner ♦KQJxxxx and nothing else, 5♦ ranges from poor to awful, depending on his shape. Finding him with a side-suit queen or king is probably more likely than not, so bidding game seems sensible. However, having Keycard available may allow a bit more accuracy. If I bid 4♣, will 4♦ show zero keycards? If so I'll do that, planning to pass 4♦. If partner shows one key card, it's just possible that we belong in slam (6NT), opposite ♦KQ and ♣K. If I can find out about that without getting to the six-level opposite ♦KQ and ♠K, I'll ask; otherwise I won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbodell Posted November 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 However, having Keycard available may allow a bit more accuracy. If I bid 4♣, will 4♦ show zero keycards? If so I'll do that, planning to pass 4♦. The answers to preemptive keycard are: 4♦ = 0 KC4♥ = 1 KC, no diamond Q4♠ = 1 KC and diamond Q4nt = 2 KC, no diamond Q5♣ = 2 KC and diamond Q and in theory it continues 3 w/o Q and 3 w/ Q etc. but obviously that isn't really possible. Over the answers you can probably ask for specific K, although we haven't discussed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 OK, so I can't safely find out about ♦KQ and ♣K, so I'll settle for 4♦ opposite no keycard, 5♦ opposite one, and a discussion of preempting style opposite two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_20686 Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 3N just seems auto to me. I seem to have a decent chance of 9 tricks even if I cannot get the diamonds going. No reason partner cannot have help in clubs, or a spade entry. Sure, could be off, but just seems totally normal to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 Good problem. I think 5♦ is right. Partner is 2nd seat at equal. I expect a solid preempt, but not necessarily the nuts. Lets give partner one of two hands: One is great diamonds, and nothing outside. 3N is awful, and we will struggle for undertricks. I would need two slow tricks in non-diamonds to make 5. This looks like a two finesses out of three shot. Partner needs to get to their hand to draw trump, but the opponents need to lead something, and there should some inferences available on the opening lead. The second is non-solid diamonds and some stuff outside. Lets give partner the ♦K, plus a side K or a major Q. Depending on which black K, I probably needs a club finesse, or a heart guess, or clubs 3-3, an endplay - something like that. 5♦ may be excellent, or it might need a little luck, but I doubt its ever hopeless. Overall it seems we are at or above the 50% threshold for 5♦. When I play RKC over preempts, the next step is a 2nd round control ask. I also sometimes play that 4N is 'never' a response, to keep the NT rightsided. Also, it seems wrong to not allow us to play 4N if partner bids 4♠. I could try it, but I just don't think there is a 'right' answer, and hoping for ♦KQ + ♣K seems too far fetched, plus I will run out of space. Advertising too big of a hand will also get a low heart lead which doesn't look like it will help 5♦. The only reason to actually bid 4♣ that I can see is that LHO might double with the ♣K which will help us to stay lower as well. 6 of anything seems really far off to me, and is playing partner for very specific cards, which mine never seem to have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S2000magic Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 I'd bid 5♦; seems relatively straightforward. I'd never come across preempt key-card before now; it's an interesting idea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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