Wackojack Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 In the late 70's a friend of mine when taking time off after university study developed a forcing pass system. I have played this system socially. It was great fun and I thought it was well thought out and quite potent both as an accurate 2-handed system and a destructive 4-handed system. Browsing your forum I have seen references to fp systems. The opening bids are: Pass = 0-7 or 17+. Responder bids 1C with 0-7 or 17+. Then opener with 0-7 bids 1D and with 17+ makes other bids fairly naturally. 1C = 13-16 and a suited hand. Then 1D asks and other bids fairly natural.1D = 8-12 balanced. Then 1H asks and other bids to play or pre-emptive.1H/1S = 8-12 with 5 or more cards1NT = 13-16 balanced 2C/2D = 8-12 at least 5 in minor2H/2S =4441 After opener has passed and responder has 8-16, 1D and 1NT are unchanged and 2 bids extend to 8-16. Does anybody know of a similar recognised forcing pass system? :) My friend remembers in the 80's at a tournament in London he showed the system to a Polish player who became quite excited exclaiming " Oh it is an ambiguous forcing pass" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 Nardin and Lodge played a Precision system that had 1C as 0-4 or 16+.(Now that shows my age!)That is the only system I can think of that has similarities to this. I don't like the structure as I think it is far too open to intervention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 nice system, didnt get into it, but i like everything but 1c, i would prefer the openings to show 8-16 and be natural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 Reminds me a bit of TRS as well as the Vulcan Variable Pass from "Enterprising Tales" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 Was going to mention TRS, but that had an intermediate pass. Love the 1Major openings in TRS, 0-2 or 5+ in that suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 Reminds me a bit of TRS as well as the Vulcan Variable Pass from "Enterprising Tales" Just doubled checked my book collection: This is VERY similar to the system from Enterprising tales Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben47 Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 Well, I recognize something like my home-bred forcing pass system. http://www.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de/~di...e/tuebpass.html If you would like to play this on BBO let me know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarceldB Posted October 15, 2004 Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 There is a similarity with the system "Sandgroper" by Ian Casselton (Aus) Pass= 0-6 any shape, 7-12 4432/4333/444117+ bal. or 4441 1C same1NT same 1x and 2C= 7-12 or 17+ all 1 step transfer 2D=7-12 54+ D and an other2H= 7-12 55+ no spades2S= 7-12 55+ with spades2NT=weak prempt.C, sound preempt. D Marcel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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