Missed 6 spades

[Fluffy]

Its not ideal but given the weakish club holding for no trumps 3♥ rather than 2NT seems a possible reasonable alternative start.

Another one I don´t do :), 2NT is cheap, and 3♥ is not, I'd use 3♥ with 4-6 at least or a very strong 45 but IMO reverses at the 3 level kind of say: I don´t wanna play 3NT at all.

 

Perhaps I should stop callin my methods natural and start to think about conventional rebids by opener, for example, 4-4 heart fit can be found at the 3 level and it doesn´t often lead to slam, so you could play 1♠-2♦-2♥ as a catchall and give 2♠ more meaningful things such as 6 spades, or any 5-4.

 

I think Frances has an optimized scheme like this.

[Raff90]

Even if 2S does not guarantee 6 cards, why not support with K J , and you might get a courtesy cue of 4C! , which would take the slam beyond "hopeless":

 

1S - 2D! ( 2/1 GF )

2S - 3S

4C! - 4D!

4H! - 4NT

5S ( 2 + sQ )- 5NT

6C ( cK, so 4C! cue was not shortness ) - 6D ( 2nd K-ask )

6S ( no more K's ) - pass

 

[ still no guarantee if opener has 3 small ♦ ].

If you play non serious 3NT then its easy with this auction:

1S - 2D! ( 2/1 GF )

2S - 3S

3NT - 4C

4D - 4NT

[TWO4BRIDGE]

If you play non serious 3NT then its easy with this auction:

1S - 2D! ( 2/1 GF )

2S - 3S

3NT - 4C

4D - 4NT

I think you meant a 4H! cue, and not 4D!, since Opener has no ♦ control ?

[Raff90]

yep sry

[xxhong]

A simple transfer auction:

1S 2D

2H(6+S) 2S (fit)

2N(balanced) 3C(cue)

3H(cue) 4D(cue, serious slam interest)

Later, it would be quite straightforward.

 

A standard method:

1S 2D

2S 2N

3S 4C (cue, extra)

4H (cue) 5D(cue)

6C(cue) 6S (sign off)

 

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This was from a MP tourney yesterday and we missed the good 6♠. While the play in 3N is pretty interesting after ♦K, ducked, I'd rather not get into the play issues.

 

How should the auction proceed after 2♠?

 

(Edit, no 2♠ does not promise 6)

 

Thanks

[the_dude]

I really dont understand bidding 2N instead of 3H over 2S - doesnt 3H scream extra values and looking for slam?

 

If you dont bid 3H on this hand over 2S, when do you bid it?

 

Since 2♠ did not promise 6, I think 2NT is the best way to let partner rebid his spades if he has a good 6. Bidding 3♥ muddies the issue .. now he isn't sure if you are looking for a 6th spade or a club stopper - he has an aweful guess wondering if he is supposed to bid 3NT or 3♠ now.

[phil_20686]

Since 2♠ did not promise 6, I think 2NT is the best way to let partner rebid his spades if he has a good 6. Bidding 3♥ muddies the issue .. now he isn't sure if you are looking for a 6th spade or a club stopper - he has an aweful guess wondering if he is supposed to bid 3NT or 3♠ now.

 

I'm really surprised at these responses, over 2N, it is pretty much compulsory to show 3 card diamond support (if 2d=5+ which seems pretty normal now) or 4 clubs even if you have 6 spades, else how do you locate your 5-3 diamond fit when responder is very strong. Bidding 3H seems to me to imply that diamonds are basically out of the picture unless declarer has 4 card support.

 

If on the given hand the minors were exchanged, the auction the auction would go 1s-2d-2s-2n-3d-3s

 

and we do not feel well placed now.

[han]

If on the given hand the minors were exchanged, the auction the auction would go 1s-2d-2s-2n-3d-3s

 

and we do not feel well placed now.

 

Who is this we, and why wouldn't that be a good start of the auction?