Fluffy Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 and when you throw to the mix non english people who use "C" as cours, , cuori, corazones or copas (IE. Hearts) on their own country. As well as S ot ST for no trump, Then the mess is guaranteed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 4.11. Alerts: The Player's partner should immediately circle any bid that requires an alert. How is the partner supposed to see the paper across the table and read the upside-down bid? Written bidding sounds awful. Uses a lot of trees too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfi Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 How is the partner supposed to see the paper across the table and read the upside-down bid? Quite easily, actually - it is a skill that people manage to master in the first auction. And if a bid is unclear someone will always ask. The only negative really is the question of how many trees it uses. Apart from that it is fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 Uses a lot of trees too. I imagine the auctions per tree ratio is extremely high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordontd Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 How is the partner supposed to see the paper across the table and read the upside-down bid? It's probably quite like reading the Bridgemate upside-down, when you turn it so that the rest of the table can see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 How is the partner supposed to see the paper across the table and read the upside-down bid? It's probably quite like reading the Bridgemate upside-down, when you turn it so that the rest of the table can see it.With a difference. No matter which way you turn something handwritten, it still might not be legible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluejak Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 Having played a lot with bidding boxes and some with written bidding I think written bidding is excellent though it does have one or two downsides. I think bidding boxes are excellent though they do have one or two downsides. So? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 With a difference. No matter which way you turn something handwritten, it still might not be legible. In practice I have seldom had a problem with illegible written bidding. Occasionally there has been a problem that has been cleared up with a question. Most of the problems occur with players that don't use the proper form - capital letters. As a director there was once a problem with a player who wrote "d" for diamonds and the upstroke coincided with the printed square so it looked like a "c". I can't remember how I resolved that. I once I had a similar problem that didnt involve capitals as a player with a "3" where a straight top of the number coincided with the printed square and I mistook the bid for "5". I defended 5D down two only to find that the contract was 3D=. Occasionally there is a problem with handwriting. I have a partner who scrawls "NT" as one mess that sometimes could be mistaken for an "H" although this hasnt caused any problems where an opponent has been mistaken about the bid made (other than needing to clarify). In general it is not too difficult even for the most untidy hand writing to write the single characters "C" "D" "H" "S" "N" "T" and the numerals "1" through "7" in an unambigous way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 Having played a lot with bidding boxes and some with written bidding I think written bidding is excellent though it does have one or two downsides. I think bidding boxes are excellent though they do have one or two downsides. So? The same for me only in reverse. Another hidden advantage of written bidding is that we have several members of the club who are keen to learn who will collect the bidding sheets and take them home so that they can easily remember the bidding later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 How often are there fights over who gets to take the bidding slips home? B-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 How often are there fights over who gets to take the bidding slips home? B-) Interestingly it is something i have thought about but never observed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 It's probably quite like reading the Bridgemate upside-down, when you turn it so that the rest of the table can see it. I guess. I just feel that I wouldn't be able to read something even rightside-up if it is in front of my partner, all the way across the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwg7 Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 I guess. I just feel that I wouldn't be able to read something even rightside-up if it is in front of my partner, all the way across the table. The bidding pad is normally in the centre of the table, and I've not yet found players who have difficulty reading it (though when player write badly, one sometimes asks to be sure of the bid). Players are encouraged to write clearly and fill the space (that also helps with the "small x" vs "large X" problem). It's not perfect, but generally, as noted by others, no worse than other methods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 The bidding pad is normally in the centre of the table Where is the board? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluejak Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 Underneath the bidding pad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfi Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 Where is the board? Typically, next to the bidding pad if you have a long hard plastic board, or underneath it if you have a folding "wallet". It does mean that you cannot have more than one board on the table at any given time, since that would make it inconvenient for the person who has the board between them and the bidding pad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 Sometimes underneath. More often along side the bidding pad. So the board and the pad are both in the middle of the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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